Cruise control options on a 1HZ

[joekatana]

As the title says I am looking for a cruise control option to put in my BJ75 that actually has all the running gear and electrical of a later HZJ model , 12 volt but no tach in the cluster and the late model 1HZ with EGR . For a long time there where companies in Europe that sold aftermarket cruise control units for the 70 series that used the electronic tach in the dash but alas it seems that none of them have it anymore.

Anyone has a decent lead or experience with this ? I am planning to haul my HDJ73 around with this troopy so there will be many long lonesome highway miles to be done with it where it either will be cruise control / hand throttle or if necessary a heavy brick on the pedal as after a few motorcycle wrecks keeping my foot on the pedal for long periods is no longer possible alas.

 

[AirheadNut]

Just a thought, could the cruise control from an HDJ81 be made to work?

 

[joekatana]

Just a thought, could the cruise control from an HDJ81 be made to work?

No idea but that is complete different wiring harness and 90% of the time an auto trans vs my manual trans.

 

[FJ73Texas]

I was looking at the Rostra 250-1223 for my PZJ70.

 

[duncanrm]

Not sure how much functionality you're after but a simple hand throttle clamped to the gear stick and picking up the idle-up cable point on the accelerator works. No smarts or anything but its great for idling up dunes or holding a certain speed on mostly flat roads.

 

[joekatana]

I was looking at the Rostra 250-1223 for my PZJ70.

Which of the following options would you choose for the speed sensor ?

Step 3: Providing Vehicle Speed Signal
Part Number: Various

The Global Cruise system can adapt to pre-existing VSS input signals between 2,000 and 38,600 Pulses Per Mile (PPM). We also offer the 250-4165 magnetic VSS generator for speedometer cable-equipped vehicles, and the inline 250-4160 for early General Motors transmissions.

 

[db3]

We also offer the 250-4165 magnetic VSS generator for speedometer cable-equipped vehicles

I used the magnetic pickup on the drive shaft. Works very well in my 1HZ powered 60.

 

[FJ73Texas]

Which of the following options would you choose for the speed sensor ?

Step 3: Providing Vehicle Speed Signal
Part Number: Various

The Global Cruise system can adapt to pre-existing VSS input signals between 2,000 and 38,600 Pulses Per Mile (PPM). We also offer the 250-4165 magnetic VSS generator for speedometer cable-equipped vehicles, and the inline 250-4160 for early General Motors transmissions.

Because my PZJ70 is speedometer cable equipped, I thought the offered magnetic device would be my best option. Looks like it will run me about $300 or so once everything is purchased.

Have you found any other options yet that are better?

 

[joekatana]

Because my PZJ70 is speedometer cable equipped, I thought the offered magnetic device would be my best option. Looks like it will run me about $300 or so once everything is purchased.

Have you found any other options yet that are better?

Nope once again I am a day late and a dollar short :-( Wish I would have bought one in Europe last year when I had the chance.

 

[joekatana]

I used the magnetic pickup on the drive shaft. Works very well in my 1HZ powered 60.

Was it a pretty straightforward install and do you remember what part numbers you bought from them …...any pics maybe ?

Thanks

 

[db3]

Was it a pretty straightforward install and do you remember what part numbers you bought from them …...any pics maybe ?

Thanks

Everything was purchased from Summit Racing: Cruise Control Module RPC-250-1223, Cruise Switch RPC-250-3032, and Speed Control Sensor Universal RPC-250-4165. I also purchased the Clutch Disengagement Switch RPC-250-4206, but haven't installed it. The installation was easy, with the only issue being where to mount the servo unit. Mine is tucked down in the passenger side wheel well. I really couldn't get a good photo of it, but if you follow the cable next to the washer bottle you can see a yellow terminal block. I used the steering wheel tilt control for the control stalk. The unit works very well for an aftermarket unit, with about 1-2 mph deadband on hills. I've found the max speed setting is governed my the IP pump spring, which in my case is about 72 mph. There is a slight delay in engagement, but other than that the unit has performed well.

 

[joekatana]

Everything was purchased from Summit Racing: Cruise Control Module RPC-250-1223, Cruise Switch RPC-250-3032, and Speed Control Sensor Universal RPC-250-4165. I also purchased the Clutch Disengagement Switch RPC-250-4206, but haven't installed it. The installation was easy, with the only issue being where to mount the servo unit. Mine is tucked down in the passenger side wheel well. I really couldn't get a good photo of it, but if you follow the cable next to the washer bottle you can see a yellow terminal block. I used the steering wheel tilt control for the control stalk. The unit works very well for an aftermarket unit, with about 1-2 mph deadband on hills. I've found the max speed setting is governed my the IP pump spring, which in my case is about 72 mph. There is a slight delay in engagement, but other than that the unit has performed well.

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That is some great info thanks !

 

[roscoFJ73]

This is another company that makes cruise controls for all vehicles with 3 different types

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[portcruiser]

As the title says I am looking for a cruise control option to put in my BJ75 that actually has all the running gear and electrical of a later HZJ model , 12 volt but no tach in the cluster and the late model 1HZ with EGR . For a long time there where companies in Europe that sold aftermarket cruise control units for the 70 series that used the electronic tach in the dash but alas it seems that none of them have it anymore.

Anyone has a decent lead or experience with this ? I am planning to haul my HDJ73 around with this troopy so there will be many long lonesome highway miles to be done with it where it either will be cruise control / hand throttle or if necessary a heavy brick on the pedal as after a few motorcycle wrecks keeping my foot on the pedal for long periods is no longer possible alas.

On my 1994 HZJ80 STD , I used a 1996 wrecked 24 valve HDJ80 complete cruise control setup . It was necessary to hac into the HDJ80 wiring loom to find the proper wires , connectors , brake and clutch switches , everything . This was only possible because the 1994 HZJ80 has the electronic controlled speedometer . Once every part was indentified it was not very hard to transfer everything to the HZJ80 . I opted not to hac into the HZJ80 wiring loom . Instead I made a separate loom with the wiring I "stole" from the wrecked HDJ . Small wiring adaptation was necessary to the HZJ dash , as STD version only has the speedometer + temp.+ fuel gauges . Works perfectly .

 

[davegonz]

I had a Rostra setup in my old 4BT powered 80. It worked, but I didn't like how hard it engaged going up hill. I ended up taking it out and used the hand throttle. @db3 how smooth is your setup? I never dug into it, it might have been adjustable.

 

[db3]

I had a Rostra setup in my old 4BT powered 80. It worked, but I didn't like how hard it engaged going up hill. I ended up taking it out and used the hand throttle. @db3 how smooth is your setup? I never dug into it, it might have been adjustable.

I had to give your question some thought, as I wasn't quite sure what you mean by hard engagement going uphill. As I mentioned, my only minor, complaint with the unit is a noticeable delay during initial engagement, where after setting the speed, the servo finally takes up the cable slack and actually starts controlling the speed. If I take my foot off the pedal immediately after setting the speed, there is a noticeable drop in speed, maybe 3 - 4 mph before the unit finally engages and starts to accelerate back to the set point. I can imagine doing this going up hill would result in even more loss of speed, resulting in a 'hard' engagement, especially with the 4BT. I've never noticed this, but of course my 1HZ has no where near the torque of the 4BT... What I do is after setting the speed, I slowly ease my foot off the pedal to allow the unit to pick up the slack before I lose too much speed. After giving it more thought, your issue might also have been related to the units response sensitivity. There is a four position programming adjustment for 'road condition and motor size'. This allows 'tuning' the systems gain, tailoring it to the engine. For instance, reducing the gain for a responsive engine. Crude but better than nothing. I didn't change it from the default mid setting, as I've been happy with the overall performance.

 

[davegonz]

Sorry about my description, but I think you hit on it. It's that delayed engagement and then *BAM* hard throttle that I was trying to describe. Wasn't smooth at all.

 

[dogfishlake]

Good info fellas. Might need something like this too, thanks.

 

[joekatana]

Anyone down under ever used this one on their 70 series ?

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[davegonz]

Joe, does your truck have a drive by wire accelerator pedal?

Eurocruise 900SS kits are developed for the new generation of vehicles with electronic throttles/Drive-by-wire DBW (Electronic Accelerator Pedal) this unit is specifically built and programmed for each vehicle. The E900GS uses an OEM style stalk switch giving your new cruise a factory look and functionality. Comes with 24 month factory warranty.