CO2 in tires?

[lumpy70]

I won a portable air/CO2 at the RMLCA River Shiver this year, but I’m still not sold on the idea of using CO2 in my tires. Call me a hippie, but I do care about releasing unneeded CO2 into the air.

Also, I’ve seen through some research that CO2 can attack rubber (a corrosive reaction with water vapor, or oxygen maybe?).

The folks at Air Liquide suggested I fill it with Nitrogen as that’s what race cars do and it is less harmful to the tires and the environment.

Any thoughts on either of these gases?



Craig.

 

[Island Moose]

I'm assuming you won an air pig, or refillable canister? Why not just fill it with air at the gas station?

BTW...you are a hippie...4 tires worth of carbon dioxide is about 3 hours of you breathing.

 

[NorCalDoug]

BTW...you are a hippie...4 tires worth of carbon dioxide is about 3 hours of you breathing.

so don't breathe for 3 hours after you air down and it's all even

 

[Razor]

A CO2 tank air system consists of an aluminum cylinder tank of pressurized liquid CO2 which is released as a vapor through a regulator. CO2 is the offroader’s answer to portable air on the trail, addressing all the needs of on-board air; inflating tires, running air tools & blowing off parts can all be accomplished with CO2.

CO2 can air up tires fast, remove lug nuts fast, repair drive train & suspension systems quick with impact tools, even in hard to get to situations because its portable. CO2 can reseat a tire while still on the vehicle & air up 33” truck tires in less than one minute.

CO2 is filled as a liquid and evaporates to gas (air) through the regulator and out the hose to the tire. As more gas is consumed, more liquid evaporates into gas, generating more pressure. This process allows much more volume than other commonly used nitrogen tanks, shop air tanks & scuba tanks. And because it is CO2, as long as there is liquid remaining, your tank will have full pressure.

A 10lbs. CO2 tank is less than half the size of a 5 gallon compressed air tank but holds 20 times the capacity. A 5 gallon air tank pressurized to 125PSI will inflate two 33X12.50x15 truck tires from 10-20PSI. A 10lbs. CO2 tank will inflate thirty nine (39) tires the same size, taking only 30 seconds a tire! WA HOO !!

Why CO2 instead of air or nitrogen? A CO2 tank stores CO2 in liquid form which results in air output that is 10 time the volume of nitrogen or compressed air. This means you are storing several nitrogen tanks in one CO2 tank.

CO2 is non-toxic, non-corrosive, and totally inert. This means its safe on your air tools, tires & metal wheels. The thermal expansion is similar to air once released from the tank.

A CO2 tank may be mounted in any position, but must be at least 30 degrees upright angle to work correctly when used. Its recommended that you mount in a vertical position to limit unnecessary handling before use.

 

[lumpy70]

It's an Inflation Zone air tank;
https://www.airzonerecreation.com/inflationzone/products/mbk-7.htm

I could fill it with air, but you don't get nearly as much volume as you do with compressed CO2.

Yes I am a hippie (Thanks!), but I was more concerned about the corrosive effects that CO2 might have on my tires vs say, nitrogen.

Craig.

 

[lowenbrau]

Craig:

You make it sound like this is new technology. People have been running co2 in thier tires for years and no one seems to be complaining about corroded tires.

Besides, how many times have you actually aired down in the last year ?

Oh and stop drinking Coke.

 

[crushers]

It's an Inflation Zone air tank;
https://www.airzonerecreation.com/inflationzone/products/mbk-7.htm

I could fill it with air, but you don't get nearly as much volume as you do with compressed CO2.

Yes I am a hippie (Thanks!), but I was more concerned about the corrosive effects that CO2 might have on my tires vs say, nitrogen.

Craig.

you know Craig, i might be interested in the tank if you want to get rid of it... you kow how bad CO2 is...
;^)

 

[lowenbrau]

<grin>

I was thinking of making the same offer

 

[Tigerstripe40]

It's an Inflation Zone air tank;
https://www.airzonerecreation.com/inflationzone/products/mbk-7.htm

I could fill it with air, but you don't get nearly as much volume as you do with compressed CO2.

Yes I am a hippie (Thanks!), but I was more concerned about the corrosive effects that CO2 might have on my tires vs say, nitrogen.

Craig.

I think that you're being over cautios about the CO2 in your tires. Yes, it MIGHT corrode the rubber. However, I imagine that it's a problem when you store your truck for long periods. Show cars that gbet driven once a year then stored mihgt be a consideration

However, Land Cruisers are not show cars.
If you're driving it, you probably replace the tires once every 3 years. I honestly beliece you are going to wear your tire tread out LONG before the tires corrode and are a problem.

Don't worry about it.

 

[lumpy70]

you know Craig, i might be interested in the tank if you want to get rid of it... you kow how bad CO2 is...
;^)

I was thinking of making the same offer

I'm listening...

 

[crushers]

sooooo...
what is your contact number?

 

[crushers]

<grin>

I was thinking of making the same offer

you know Bruce, i am beginning to worry about you... we seem to be agreeing on quite a few things lately...
;^)

 

[PVVH]

They use nitrogen in large aircraft tires. I think it would be good to use on your Cruiser. That way when you come in for those 200 MPH + landings you won't have to worry about the O2 in your tires exploding!

 

[tlcruiserman]

I used to run nitrogen in my stock car race tire (bias ply's) to keep the stagger correct and only grow one sides tires. All of the nascar guys used to do the same thing.

Michael

 

[Stone]

CO2 is non-toxic,...

It is? Last I heard it kills you if you have too much.

 

[tlcruiserman]

Somebody is confusing C02 with O2 maybe they need more C8-H10-N4-O2


Most think my middle name is "safety" but it is really "danger", good thing I use my powers for good and not evil.


he he he he


Michael

 

[Rich]

... Call me a hippie, but I do care about releasing unneeded CO2 into the air.
...
Craig.

CO2 is not manufactured. It is removed directly from the atmosphere and then distributed in liquid form. The net increase in atmospheric CO2 due to this process is the CO2 generated from buring fuel to to operate the equipment to liquify the C02 and to distribute and transport the CO2 aftewards, including what you generate hauling the tank around in your Land Cruiser.