Yeah, stay away from ceramic pads. They are very noisy in dusty conditions. I'm looking at going back to OEM pads.
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Craig - might consider the Porterfield carbon kevlar pads if you want an upgraded pad.
These?
Not sure if you were trying to link something. Here are what is offered for our rig:
http://porterfield-brakes.com/manufacturers/Porterfield+Brakes/R4-S.html
Spresso ran these with ART Cryo'd rotors and swore by them until he did the BBK.
I flagrantly copied spressos setup 2.5 years/42000 miles ago. I also used stoptech (plus custom) braided steel lines at the time. I thought the setup was a decent improvement, and i figure every little bit helps to stop these pigs. they say low dust and noise, and I agree. i am replacing the pads with same this weekend
FWIW there are plenty of hybrid pads out there that have superior stopping power that are clean and quiet. I have Hawk HP pads with plain Centric rotors up front...cheap dura last gold ceramics in the rear and my rig stops better than my wife's 08' Accord with o Reilly's ceramics (cheap I know) all around. Hawk or EBC has good options, Hawks were half the price of EBC's though.
... i am replacing the pads with same this weekend
quick update, the rear pads were down to the bottom of the wear groove. there was about 2 mm left on the front. does that sound like a problem (proportioning valve? other?) to anyone?
So maybe 42000 miles is too many for the porterfields. I will probably make this a 30k PM item. I do love these pads. I'd love to know if the EBCs can compare (half as expensive and available over the counter at Napa).
Front pads always wear faster. They account for most of the stopping power due to vehicle weight and physics. Is that what you are asking?
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That would be true if the pads, rotors, calipers and etc were the same size. But they are not on most vehicles.
that is essentially the question i was asking, or maybe the assumption i was questioning...
the rear pads are about half the surface area of the fronts. but considering your statement, maybe only 1 or 2 mils of wear difference on new pads means that the overall system is fairly well balanced. more material left on front is probably better than the opposite.
aside from all the philosophy, the break set-up was on the expensive side, but has not let me down at all (with more than a couple of lock up scenarios, and also some trailer towing and long downgrades).
100s usually wear the rear pads first if front and rear get replaced at the same time.
Forgive me if i missed this, but if the 200 and tundra received larger brakes, has anyone tried to install a set from one of those vehicles?
Overkill on our rigs unless you have 35's or heavy aftermarket whales IMO. A good set of performance pads go a long way to stop fast and battle heat.
This is iH8Mud. We're all about overkill. Someone get some 200 brakes on their 100 ASAP.
hahahaha, best post so far
Brake pads are extremely subjective and results can vary based on driving conditions, driving style and vehicle use.
Brake pads also vary from one manufacturer to the next, not all ceramic pads are made equal for instance.
I would never suggest buying or not buying rotors based on pads alone. Look at the rotors first and foremost and pads as a "bonus".
If you don't want the pads they are offering, they'll be more than happy to just sell you rotors.
Pads are cheap enough and wear out fast enough that if you don't like them, switch them.
As an example, I love the Powerstop ceramic pads on my 80, no noise and excellent stopping power. While, my 2011 BMW has OEM ceramic pads on it and squeak like nobody's business. Do they stop well, sure do. But, I hate them.
Brake pads also vary from one manufacturer to the next, not all ceramic pads are made equal for instance.
I would never suggest buying or not buying rotors based on pads alone. Look at the rotors first and foremost and pads as a "bonus".
If you don't want the pads they are offering, they'll be more than happy to just sell you rotors.
Pads are cheap enough and wear out fast enough that if you don't like them, switch them.
As an example, I love the Powerstop ceramic pads on my 80, no noise and excellent stopping power. While, my 2011 BMW has OEM ceramic pads on it and squeak like nobody's business. Do they stop well, sure do. But, I hate them.
When I had my 3rd gen 4runner, I upgraded the brakes to tundra ones, and they were a direct bolt on, easy as pie. I wonder if the 200 series or newer tundras are the same for us?
hoser
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I have a pair of the '07 Tundra calipers and I can tell you they are not bolt in.
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I'm willing to develop some real options for you guys.... Stock sized pads and rotors are only going to take it so far.
