craigslist Beware Denver 04 100

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2004 Toyota Land Cruiser

She told me she got it in a divorce and didn't know the history, but her post was rather detailed about control arms and skid plates and other equipment for a woman who nothing about the truck. If you notice there are no interior shots. I finally got her to send some, although she said her camera wasnt that good. I noticed things missing and screw holes. Asked about them, said her husband removed them before she got it from him. They didn't take interior shots because they needed time to strip this truck to sell without the stuff they wanted. She told me it had a DVD player but the previous owner took it before they got it, but she forgot she had sent a picture that showed it barely in the corner. When I questioned about the DVD, all I got was silence. This truck obviously had serious issues and they have come up with this story to try and pawn this off on someone else. Stay away and I hope this comes around on them.

 

[ace10]

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[mcgaskins]

Run from this one. @JohnJB dug this up:

 

[JAshley]

She was super flaky at first, then pulled it together. I thought her story was odd with all the details she had on equipment, but didn't know any history. Then she slipped, liars will always get caught with enough questions.

 

[White Stripe]

Most of this thread is whack. Half of the op's sentences are jumbled and make no sense. Then their is a pic of some poorly written notes on a computer screen about bad rust and water damage but no pics of said issues.

 

[JAshley]

Most of this thread is whack. Half of the op's sentences are jumbled and make no sense. Then their is a pic of some poorly written notes on a computer screen about bad rust and water damage but no pics of said issues.

Sorry for being "whack", just trying to paraphrase two days of conversation with this lady about the cruiser. Next time I will have my transcriptions to type it out, so you can understand it. Just trying help people out, and some others Mudders offered info they found. Go buy the piece of junk if you pleases you.

 

[White Stripe]

Sorry for being "whack", just trying to paraphrase two days of conversation with this lady about the cruiser. Next time I will have my transcriptions to type it out, so you can understand it. Just trying help people out, and some others Mudders offered info they found. Go buy the piece of junk if you pleases you.

Did you read your post? It's unreadable. What does "they didn't pay interior shoes" mean? Are u saying the owner has some stolen shoes inside?

 

[ace10]

Most of this thread is whack. Half of the op's sentences are jumbled and make no sense. Then their is a pic of some poorly written notes on a computer screen about bad rust and water damage but no pics of said issues.

And you've added what to this thread, other than being critical of grammar and sentence structure?
Jeesh.

 

[JAshley]

Did you read your post? It's unreadable. What does "they didn't pay interior shoes" mean? Are u saying the owner has some stolen shoes inside?

Sorry for auto-correct on my phone. No I didn't proof read it. Obviously, others were able to decipher what I was I getting at. I'm not turning in my thesis here, so go try and grease someone else's thread. I'm just passing this along, not looking to get bashed for my thread. Which is real easy for you to do from a keyboard.

 

[White Stripe]

Sorry for auto-correct on my phone. No I didn't proof read it. Obviously, others were able to decipher what I was I getting at. I'm not turning in my thesis here, so go try and grease someone else's thread. I'm just passing this along, not looking to get bashed for my thread. Which is real easy for you to do from a keyboard.

Don't get torqued just because I said I can't understand what you wrote. I'm not here to insult you at all. I screw up posts all the time with auto correct just like the rest of us. But I'll happily clear it up for people if they don't understand because of it as will most people when brought to their attention.

 

[White Stripe]

And you've added what to this thread, other than being critical of grammar and sentence structure?
Jeesh.

So far I see only very vague concerns about the cruiser. Their is a mention of water damage and rust. Where is the rust? Is it structural? It has water damage. Is it some water on the carpet like a clogged sunroof drain would cause or was it in a flood? All of this could be very basic fixes or catastrophic .

 

[ace10]

So far I see only very vague concerns about the cruiser. Their is a mention of water damage and rust. Where is the rust? Is it structural? It has water damage. Is it some water on the carpet like a clogged sunroof drain would cause or was it in a flood? All of this could be very basic fixes or catastrophic .

This isn't a PPI report that somebody paid a $350 for complete with photo documentation and recommended actions.

It's a Mud Buyer Beware thread on Mud with information discovered over the phone and other second hand sources.

OP talked with the seller and relayed their experience and impression. The screenshot appears to be something from a local Toyota dealer's service notes.

This isn't complicated. Simply a public service announcement.

 

[White Stripe]

This isn't a PPI report that somebody paid a $350 for complete with photo documentation and recommended actions.

It's a Mud Buyer Beware thread on Mud with information discovered over the phone and other second hand sources.

OP talked with the seller and relayed their experience and impression. The screenshot appears to be something from a local Toyota dealer's service notes.

This isn't complicated. Simply a public service announcement.

I get that. But all the issues could be very minor and used as leverage to work out a reduced price. If the seller is lying, a good negotiater could possibly call her out on it and get her to lower the price even more.

 

[JohnJB]

I get that. But all the issues could be very minor and used as leverage to work out a reduced price. If the seller is lying, a good negotiater could possibly call her out on it and get her to lower the price even more.

All fair and well. Unfortunately dealer notes are not usually the most descriptive prose.

Re: the water damage. A previous entry from the dealer notes water intrusion found at rear backup camera causing it to no longer function. The notes state the camera's "ECU" needs to be completely replaced. Additionally, the CD player was found to have the same issue, water damage and needing replacement.

The PPI screenshot above was 3 months after this service entry date. I'd wager that a PO attempted to sell the truck only to have potential buyer inspect it and be told it is not a safe vehicle. You're right, there's not enough info in the ad to know what rust was described as problematic. But that PPI alone tells me this vehicle has been owned by a less than faithful caretaker at some point.

The ad in conjunction with what's in its service history has all the hallmarks of being a dud. Maybe there's a deal in there somewhere, but good luck convincing the seller to drop their price by several order of magnitude.

Rather this info be out there for potential shoppers than not! As the title suggests, beware.

 

[White wings]

• DATE4/9/15
• TYPEDealer
• REPAIR ORDER #0315699
• PROVIDERGroove Toyota
  5460 South Broadway
  Englewood, CO 80113

• VEHICLE2004 Land Cruiser
• VINJTEHT05J842060612
• MILEAGE73,895
• CUSTOMER IH8MUD
  

JOB DATE OPERATION DETAILS PAYMENT
1
4/9/15

MISC
MISC ~|~PERFORM A PRE-PURCHASE INSPECTION ~|~ ~|~73894 NO NOT A SAFE CAR .HAS BAD RUST AND WHEEL BEARING LOSE,GREAS COMING OUT OF CV.LOWER BALL JOINT LEAKING ,LEFT REAR CLIPER MISSING BOLTS .H ISTORY HAS STORY OF WATER DAMG IN SIDE CAR

• DATE1/29/15
• TYPEDealer
• REPAIR ORDER #0619107
• PROVIDERStevinson Toyota East
  444 South Havana Street
  Aurora, CO 80012

• VEHICLE2004 Land Cruiser
• VINJTEHT05J842060612
• MILEAGE72,655
• CUSTOMER IH8MUD
  

JOB DATE OPERATION DETAILS PAYMENT
1
1/29/15

DECLINED REPAIR
DECLINED REPAIR ~|~CUST STATES BACK CAMERA DOES NOT WORK ~|~ ~|~72655 REMOVED REAR BRAKE UP CAMERA AND INSPECTED ALL WIRING FOUND SIGNS OF WATER DAMAGE TO CAMERA, WIRING TO CAMERA APPEARS TO BE OK, BACKUP CAMERA ECU HAS BEEN UNDER WATER, WE NEED TO START WITH REPLACING BOTH COMPONENTS DUE TO THE EXCESSIVE WATER DAMAGE

PARTS
NAME PART # QTY
CUSTOMER PAY

2
1/29/15

DECLINED REPAIRS
DECLINED REPAIRS ~|~CUST STATES SUNROOF DOES NOT WORK ~|~ ~|~72655 REMOVED SUN ROOF MOTOR AND INSPECTED TRACKING FOR ROOF, FOUND THAT SUNROOF MOTOR IS GETTING POWER SUPPLIED TO IT. MOTOR IS FREELY TURNING WHEN NOT CONNECTED TO TRACK, SUNROOF TRACKING AND CABLES NEED TO BE REPLACED 100

PARTS
NAME PART # QTY
CUSTOMER PAY

3
1/29/15

DECLINED REPAIR
DECLINED REPAIR ~|~CUST STATES CD PLAYER DOES NOT WORK,ALSO WHEN DEPRESSING CD ON STEREO IT STATES CD PLAYER NOT CONNECTED ~|~ ~|~72655 REMOVED CD CHANGER AND INSPECTED FOUND CHANGER TO HAVE WATER DAMAGE. CD CHANGER NEEDS TO BE REPLACED 200

PARTS
NAME PART # QTY
CUSTOMER PAY

4
1/29/15

ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION
ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION ~|~ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION ~|~

PARTS
NAME PART # QTY

• 12/27/14
• TYPEDealer
• REPAIR ORDER #0525815
• PROVIDERToyota of Kirkland
  13210 NE 124th St
  Kirkland, WA 98034

• VEHICLE2004 Land Cruiser
• VINJTEHT05J842060612
• MILEAGE72,475
• CUSTOMER IH8mud
  

JOB DATE OPERATION DETAILS PAYMENT
1
12/27/14

MISC ACCESSORY
MISC ACCESSORY ~|~CUSTOMER REQUESTS TO PROGRAM PROVIDED KEY -- FACTORY TOYOTA PARTS - CUSTOMER SUPPLIED ~|~PROGRAMMED BUTTONS ON KEY BUT NOT ABLE TO PROGRAM KEY BECAUSE CUSTOMER DID NOT SUPPLY US WITH MASTER KEY. ~|~SYSTEM REQUIRED COMPLETE RE-SEED DUE TO NO MASTER KEY PRESENT - PROGRAMMED VALET KEY AND REMOTE KEY AS REQUIRED -- ALL FUNCTIONS GOOD AT THIS TIME

PARTS
NAME PART # QTY

 

[mdkaboom]

Man, I grew up in this neighborhood. Used to be a real decent place - good, stand-up folks.

If you bought a quarter, you got an honest to goodness quarter....

 

[JAshley]

You can see the water damage to the CD changer bracket, that was noted in CD changer repair inspection.

 

[mcgaskins]

Man, I grew up in this neighborhood. Used to be a real decent place - good, stand-up folks.

If you bought a quarter, you got an honest to goodness quarter....

How does a less than forthright person on craigslist mean a whole neighborhood isn't decent any more?? There are dishonest people all over the place - geography doesn't matter.

 

[White wings]

Oh pick me, I know!

A renter?

All joking aside, it reminds me of the Hoodies Garage cruiser build.

 

[mdkaboom]

How does a less than forthright person on craigslist mean a whole neighborhood isn't decent any more?? There are dishonest people all over the place - geography doesn't matter.

It was a joke there Mr. mcgaskins. I was poking fun at MY former neighborhood.

A lot has changed over the years and a LOT of folks have moved to the state (from all geographies) - so yes, it really doesn’t make a lick of difference.