285's to save some weight and get a little power back
Nittos are priced very well and mine have been great, no reason to change
Yeah I think 35-40K is very good for an A/T tire
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285's to save some weight and get a little power back
Nittos are priced very well and mine have been great, no reason to change
Yeah I think 35-40K is very good for an A/T tire
Don't discount the Michelin LTX M/S for general use. With the weight of these trucks, they dig in enough on a lot of stuff my 1996 Grand Cherokee would not get through with dedicated AT tires. Also, they are GREAT on the road.
This is very true. Several people on here have taken stock LTX MS or MS2 tires where most of us wouldn't think they would fare too well, and come out with surprising results.
That being said, I just saw the LTX AT2 in person at Discount Tire earlier this week, and came away pretty impressed with the tread patten. Photos don't do them a whole lot of justice. When I can pay off my wifes car and sell it to get her into a 100 series, those will very likely be the tires that I put on it.
I have the same on my '00 and would have to agree. Not too much noise at highway speed. I do wonder about the sidewall bulge though.
I have BFG AT's on my '07 FJ and they're are noiser IMHO. Still a great tire though.
If I had to do it again I would probably put BFG AT's on the Hundy.
Yeah, I got a solid 50k out of my BFG AT/KO's and could have gotten more if I would have rotated them more often.
My DT's probably won't do that well since they aren't nearly as smooth and quiet on the pavement.
I believe rotating is the key to being happier with whatever tire you select. Not only is it required by most tire warranties but it also promotes even wear. Tires are too expensive not to get every last possible mile out of them. Plus it reduces, but doesn't eliminate, those vibrations and noises we all spend so much time diagnosing!
1. Are any of the usual suspects here often discussed and touted "uni-directional" tires?
Assuming not, but please advise.
2. Re: rotation, any reason not to move left to right/r to l? I.e. Any reason we should only rotate front to back and back to front?
Is this an obsolete "rule" or does it apply to any of the 285 75 16 or similar tires often compared?
3. (Besides Michelin) which brand is returning exceptional longevity while maintaining good road manners and, especially, good RAIN performance? I am ok if no one mentions BFG.
Assuming not, but please advise.
2. Re: rotation, any reason not to move left to right/r to l? I.e. Any reason we should only rotate front to back and back to front?
Is this an obsolete "rule" or does it apply to any of the 285 75 16 or similar tires often compared?
3. (Besides Michelin) which brand is returning exceptional longevity while maintaining good road manners and, especially, good RAIN performance? I am ok if no one mentions BFG.
10080 said:
Oh yeah, please also exclude Schotts' 'Vette tires from these questions.
See post #21 and the subsequent following posts as well.
12 posts down and he's already catching on.
As for being unidirectional, no, none of the tires mentioned are (to the best of my knowledge)
For rotations, I believe the standard pattern is front to back for the first rotation, then back right to left front, back left to right front for the second. Lather, rinse, repeat. So it's a mix of both types.
As for EXCEPTIONAL treadwear, you'll want to look at Michelin if the BFG AT/KOs aren't your thing. As much as I dislike the tread pattern, their tread compound is pretty tough and long-wearing. Nitto Terra Grapplers would probably be my second choice for longevity on a rig in the 100 series weight class. I had them on my Yukon when I sold it, and 20k into their life they still looked like 85% of the tread was remaining. Jury is still out on my Duratracs, my 305s had about 6000 miles on them when I replaced them with 285s (no fault of the tire, steering knuckle was eating the sidewall). The four main tires were showing some wear at 6k compared to the spare, which I hadn't added to the rotation yet. It will take a while for me to wear this new set down, but I'm sure other people have burned through a set or two by now...
I forget the original intention of this thread but also recommend the Michellin LTX's. Very quiet and seem to last forever.
If rotated, the LTXs will go ~80K miles. Screw the french, but that is one good tire.
Just got some Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10, I was about to buy some BFG AT/KO's but the tire guy told me that these were much better. They seem to be doing well in the Montana winter are there many people running these on mud and whats your feedback?
Thanks Fuzz for the advice.
Re Michelins, Klaus and Keller--same experience. If possible, they almost last too long (you want to try a new tire and they are beginning to show deterioration, but still tread left).
Montana I posted to another thread about your tires (and if I remember correctly, after drinks in the interim, good wheel treatment. But If you are the guy with 20 inch spinners, I misremembered).
Re Michelins, Klaus and Keller--same experience. If possible, they almost last too long (you want to try a new tire and they are beginning to show deterioration, but still tread left).
Montana I posted to another thread about your tires (and if I remember correctly, after drinks in the interim, good wheel treatment. But If you are the guy with 20 inch spinners, I misremembered).
10080 said:
Haha yup. I bought a second set of wheels since the ltxs still have half their tread left.
I had BFG AT 285/75/16 on my old 00 FZJ105 for about 15k, IMO they are an excellent tyre on and off road, very little wear, good traction ... so good in fact that I kept them when I upgraded to an 02 Cruiser 
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Just love the Mich LTX.
Fabulous on road. All year.
Not good in mud though. Even wet grass can be a challenge.
Pity that it looks like it can't be had on this side of the puddle anymore.
Fabulous on road. All year.
Not good in mud though. Even wet grass can be a challenge.
Pity that it looks like it can't be had on this side of the puddle anymore.
Ok, I have down selected to a Toyo OC AT.
I am eyeing the 295/75/16 but this power loss has me questioning whether I should go with the 285/75/16 instead. There is only a 3.6lb difference between the two tire sizes. Also, there seems to be differing experiences to whether a 295 tire rubs.
Thoughts?
I just love tire talk.
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Definitely consider the Hankook Dynapro AT/M RF10.
They are almost as comfortable and quiet as the stock Grandtrek AT22's. Their handling is sensitive to tyre pressure though, and I'd recommend playing around with tyre pressures. Fortunately, higher tyre pressures don't seem to affect ride quality.
