Best on board air, Tank or compressor? (1 Viewer)

[GLTHFJ60]

I have used my Extreme Aire for a little while and I am pretty happy with it. It was pretty easy to install with the airbrake hose and push-to-connect fittings from ExtremeAire. I have two Warn 2.5 gal (hotdog) tanks mounted on my roof rack. It's enough reserve to run my 3/8" impact wrench without faim.

THAT is a sweet setup. Can you fill the tanks with the hatch shut or do you have to have it open so that it dosen't pinch the line? Where did you get the tanks???

I have been trying to figure out how to mount those damn tanks!!

BTW, I just got my York, thank you mark, and will be installing it in my 60 once I get back up to rochester so that kevinmrowland can help me! I'm excited!!

 

[VETTE60]

home built CO2 system for less than $150 bucks. 1/2 the price of a powertank. easliy put together in 5 minutes. you can't beat it for a portable set up

 

[85badger]

I'd love to have both! York and CO2. If for no other reason....piece of mind. I had an quickair plumbed into my old truck with about 8 gallons of tank. Was a real PITA at high attitude to fill my tires from 12psi to atleast 30psi, took along time 45mins or so. Thats where I'd use the CO2.

 

[BMThiker]

THAT is a sweet setup. Can you fill the tanks with the hatch shut or do you have to have it open so that it dosen't pinch the line? Where did you get the tanks???

I have been trying to figure out how to mount those damn tanks!!

BTW, I just got my York, thank you mark, and will be installing it in my 60 once I get back up to rochester so that kevinmrowland can help me! I'm excited!!

No pinching going on here. There is enough of a gap between the top edge of the door and the frame that the line doesn't bind. I got the tanks from 4WP (they had to order them though) and got them to match the pricing from another online vendor, about $70 per tank, came pre-painted in "Warn Red" too.

 

[Tools R Us]

I'd love to have both! York and CO2. If for no other reason....piece of mind. I had an quickair plumbed into my old truck with about 8 gallons of tank. Was a real PITA at high attitude to fill my tires from 12psi to atleast 30psi, took along time 45mins or so. Thats where I'd use the CO2.

Wow, it only takes a little over 5 min to air up all 4 of my 37x12.5"s with the Puma.

 

[JB740i]

Great find.

Family resemblance? At least they could have upgraded to the nice plastic case that the HF one has!

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[Tools R Us]

A few of our club members run the HF units, so spotted the similarity right away. The HF units work pretty well, but in our "air up races" the red Tsunami units slightly out perform them.

 

[alia176]

Those two tanks on top of the FJC look like missle launchers....I love it.

Good out of the box thinking.

That Puma is a fast little unit ...5 min for all 37"...Wow!!! Even beats my York!

 

[Tools R Us]

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That Puma is a fast little unit ...5 min for all 37"...Wow!!! Even beats my York!

Your right, I posted the single rate x 4, an optimistic number. I have never measured that full setup, air up, put away, time. But most of the times that I have wheeled with the Puma, have been with a buddy that has similar sized tires and CO2. Our total air up times are similar, with mine being slightly longer, but not by much.

At some point it doesn't matter what is suppling the air/gas. Automotive valve cores are pretty restrictive IIRC ~3cfm max, when fully open. That rating is based on 90pis to 0 pressure differential, as the tire fills, the pressure differential is reduced, reducing flow rate. So if your suppling enough cfm, most of the time difference is probably from flow restrictions in the hose (size & length), number of couplers, number of bends in the air lines, restrictiveness of the inflater, etc.

When I tested the Puma, I also filled a tire with my shop air, IR 7.5hp 80gal tank. It was as expected faster, but not a bunch faster, air can only flow so fast.

 

[alia176]

Automotive valve cores are pretty restrictive IIRC ~3cfm max, when fully open.

So many people just don't understand that little point! Doesn't matter if you have a fire hydrant hose, you're still going through a garden hose spigot!!!

 

[Jetboy]

So many people just don't understand that little point! Doesn't matter if you have a fire hydrant hose, you're still going through a garden hose spigot!!!

yup, my York pressure switch cycles even when directly going to the tires (no tank). It couldn't pump air into the tires any faster unless I upped the pressure. Never had an issue seating a bead either. I'm considering going with twin valve stem rims, but I'm not sure it's worth the time. I also have a mv-50 as a backup. Never actually used it, but it's nice to know it's there.

I really don't like the idea of trying to find CO2 in a small town in the middle of nowhere on a sunday. If I lived where I was always withing 30 min. of co2, or had a trailer queen I might go CO2.

I guess to me it's like taking a water bottle or a purifier, but there's always a river nearby. I'll take a purifier. There's something about the idea that I might run out that I don't feel as comfortable about.

 

[chappysfj40]

i have to agree with the york on the one, always there amd prnty of power to do what ever. But if speed and that is your game get the CO2, both are great just what do you want ...... cheers chappy

 

[Atoyot1031]

I have a cheapo CO2 setup as well consisting of:

• Soda CO@ tank (20lbs?)
• 100lb. balloon regulator

 

[psreno]

I'll mention my backup since nobody else has. I have a 10 and 20 lb CO2 tank as well as a York on one vehicle. While I like the York it is a PITA to set up in the engine compartment whereas it does come in handy during normal use. I have used air tools but not a lot.
Anyway, the 20lb tank is too bulky and it sits next to my welder most of the time nowadays.
The 10lb tank goes with me all over -- it couldn't be easier AND they work as fire extinguishers should you ever need one.

For my backup I use the old spark plug replacement hose. It works, not fast, but steady. You can stick it almost anywhere and forget it until you need it.

 

[Hottrod81]

I have heard very good things about the Puma. I am planning on getting one. I do have a CO2, but would like some other form of OBA as a backup.

 

[lovetoski]

For my backup I use the old spark plug replacement hose. It works, not fast, but steady. You can stick it almost anywhere and forget it until you need it.

I googled this and wasn't able to find it....can you point me to where you got one? Sounds like a great item to keep stuffed in a corner somewhere...

 

[psreno]

Lovetoski:

Hmm, you're right, i've had no luck finding these on Google either. I haven't looked for one in 20 years since I bought this one.

About all I found was an adapter to hook up air INTO the cylinder for keeping the valves closed while doing a valve job. For $6 that sounds better than feeding cotton rope into the cylinder instead. But does not answer your question. There were several forums about how ppl used to do that all the time in the 50's-70's.

I'll keep looking, but I'm guessing this might be yet another reason for tort reform.

 

[Tools R Us]

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For my backup I use the old spark plug replacement hose. It works, not fast, but steady. You can stick it almost anywhere and forget it until you need it.

I googled this and wasn't able to find it....

Tires, rubber doesn't like oils, gas is worse. Using this type of kit pumps air fuel mix from the motor into the tire, over time the gas will soften, breakdown the rubber, from the inside of the tire. So my guess is that no one wants to accept the possible litigation liability?

 

[Hottrod81]

I would use the spark plug replacement only in emergencies. It's really not much of an option anymore.

 

[chappysfj40]

I have a cheapo CO2 setup as well consisting of:

• Soda CO@ tank (20lbs?)
• 100lb. balloon regulator

does this work goood? also you have a pic of regualor/ your set up. i maybe looking at doing a simular set up, not sure yet.