Interesting engineering article on 200 series
http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/the-lexus-lx-570-a-larger-lap-of-luxury#
http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/the-lexus-lx-570-a-larger-lap-of-luxury#
article on 200 series build quality and where the engine is built for 200 series
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Article makes it clear that the 200 series engine is not made in the same plant that Tundra 5.7 engines are made. Also indicates that the 200 series engine is basically blue printed and almost hand built. This has to improve reliablity, longevity and quality for the 200 series 5.7 liter engine, over the Tundra 5.7 engine.
MScruiser
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I did not know that. Bjowett said that the Tundra and the 200 both use the same part number for engines. Does that mean that if you blow your engine in your 200, you will likely receive an inferior product as a replacement?
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If they don't ship you a new engine from the Tahara plant in Japan you will have a inferior engine. Tahara Is one of the few Platium rated manufacturing plants in the world, where they blue print the 5.7 LC/LX engine. Part number is one thing but for it to be balanced and machined to spec. Is called blue printed. That is what master builders do.
Tripledave
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This. This is great to know. Just one more reason my LC is superior to my buddies' tundras and sequoias.
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The "Parts Content Information" sticker on all new LC's pretty much tells the story:
LC is put together in Japan using a Japan motor and a USA transmission.
HTH
LX570 100% Japan parts content, per a MUD search I did. Maybe someone else has better information on USA delivered LX570's? My LX570 window sticker does not show this information. Next time I'm at the dealer I'll see what a new one shows. Don't understand why they would make the engine in Japan but ship the transmission across the world? And if they did I would think they would fine tune it just like they do the engines?
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gaijin
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I don't think Toyota would import transmissions from the US only for the LC's and build a virtually identical one in Japan for the LX's
Far more likely they would use the same transmission for both.
Anyone have a pic of the Parts Content sticker for an LX?
Do you think it's to save shipping weight as to allow more vehicles (minus transmission) to ride on the boat.
Once state side then the two can be married. You can only fit so many trucks in a container, however you may be able to carry a few more containers with the weight savings - I could be waaaaay off
Once state side then the two can be married. You can only fit so many trucks in a container, however you may be able to carry a few more containers with the weight savings - I could be waaaaay off
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I don't think Toyota would import transmissions from the US only for the LC's and build a virtually identical one in Japan for the LX's
Far more likely they would use the same transmission for both.
Anyone have a pic of the Parts Content sticker for an LX?
Since yours on your LC says 5% USA content, now do you know that means the transmission?
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I don't think so. But before I found this article by the Lexus LX570 chief engineer who would of thought they blue print the engines? So if they are balancing the Japan made 5.7 engines for the 200 series for smoothness and quality why would they ship Tundra Truck transmission from the USA to Japan to install in their flagship vehicle?? That now makes no sense? Unless they are going through them before they install them in the 200 series.
gaijin
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Since yours on your LC says 5% USA content, now do you know that means the transmission?
Well ... my first clue was the sticker which says "TRANSMISSION PARTS: U.S.A"
Here it is again:
HTH
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missed that 
. Wonder what the Lexus states? I would think it would be the same? Wonder if they are modding them in Japan or just slapping them in? This info is not easy to find.
. Wonder what the Lexus states? I would think it would be the same? Wonder if they are modding them in Japan or just slapping them in? This info is not easy to find.
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gaijin
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missed that
You're right, detailed info is very hard to find.
If I were Toyota, I would have consolidated my transmission manufacture for the Tundra/LC/LX in one place - the USA - and shipped the major components (probably unassembled or partially assembled to avoid possibly higher import duties on fully assembled units) to Japan and completed the final assembly of the transmission and the mating of the transmission to the engines in Japan - under the more scrutinizing eye of the local QC folks and perhaps with some tighter spec components.
After all, "Transmission Parts" on the content sticker does NOT have to mean the entire transmission.
HTH
My guess is the Lexus would be the same, if they were building that transmission in Japan for the Lexus version I'm guessing they would just slap it right into the 200 also. I doubt they are doing much to it, if Toyota thinks it's good enough for their full size truck in the US I'm guessing they would think it's good enough for the Cruiser, just my guess and 2 cents...missed that
what he said! this sounds about right!
BulletHead
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Who wants to do a group tour of the 3UR Japanese plant? I wish that's possible.
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That's logical. I found that Borg Warner makes some of the internals on the transmission.
New to the forum here .. (introductory new owner email still pending .. so I apologize in advance if I am breaking protocol). In reference to the discussion take a look @ http://www.nhtsa.gov/Laws+&+Regulations/Part+583+American+Automobile+Labeling+Act+(AALA)+Reports
Interestingly it does note that the LX570 is 100% manufactured in Japan and the LC is 95% and 5% US. I remember when I was shopping I did very clearly remember the 2014 Lexus LX 570 Parts Content Info Sticker showing 100%. Unfortunately, do not remember what the details were on my very own 2014 LC rig.
Interestingly it does note that the LX570 is 100% manufactured in Japan and the LC is 95% and 5% US. I remember when I was shopping I did very clearly remember the 2014 Lexus LX 570 Parts Content Info Sticker showing 100%. Unfortunately, do not remember what the details were on my very own 2014 LC rig.
.. to add it does also state that the LC transmissions are US sourced (same as Tundra/Sequoia) and the LX 570 are Japanese sourced. My original understanding was that both the platforms use the Aisin-Warner AB60F 6-speed units. It does seem extremely odd that the two rigs that are built right next to each other on the same line would use differently sourced parts. Furthermore, internationally way more LC units are sold compared to the LX 570. It would be even more counter-intuitive to have transmissions shipped from the US solely for US bound LC 200 units (and source the rest of the LC transmissions in Japan). One of the thoughts that come to mind (pure 100% speculation) is that the LC 200 transmission US built ABF60 units for the Tundra platform are in-fact a more "better suited design" for the intended use of the LC world wide (and possibly because of total towing requirements Tundra - 10,500 lbs and LC 8500 lbs vs. LX 570 7000 lbs).
