Anyone with a 6.2/6.5 chevy diesel fj80 a few ????

[rtarh2o]

That is about what I thought about the comparison to the 62, I can live with that, probably better than the 3f in the 80 series. Good to hear you have had good luck with the 6.2, I am anxious to get going with mine, should get started on the engine removal this week. Anything I should know about the rebuild of the 6.2? I am hoping the kit from Mark's helps in the swap. Any other words of wisdom before I get started?
Rusty

 

[FL cruiser]

Don't know that you can use much of a Marks kit. I know on a 60, the Marks kit motor mounts can't be used because they are designed for engine placement on a right hand drive, and we can't fit the engines in our US models in quite the same location in the engine bay. The same situation on an 80?, I don't know. looks like the only adapter or kit item would be the 700R4 to you transfer case.
Can't think of any words of wisdom to tell you right now on the 6.2 rebuild. PM me if you got any 6.2 questions. Best of luck. I'd like to see pics of the install !

 

[rtarh2o]

Didn't think about that rhd thing, I will have to ask them about it. Will motor mounts from a SBC work, I think Advance has those. I don't think the motor mounts are as big of a deal as the knowledge about the rest of the conversion, assuming they are willing to share that knowledge. I e-mailed them several weeks ago about something (forgot what now) and never heard from them. Anyone have any experience with them?
Rusty

 

[BigGun J]

6.2

I am planning on putting the 6.2 into my FJ60. I have the motor, early J motor. I plan on running the Toyota h55 and mating it with the Marks adapter. I have a couple of sets of motor mounts from chevy donors and hope to cut and fit them. I am still working on a oil cooler? The chevy radiators are larger then the 60's. Probably will run a remote fan driven cooler. Plus I want to run a Banks turbo. I am probably about 6 months away from starting my swap. Good luck and keep us posted. I have read alot and think the 6.2 is a good option.

Jim

 

[lt1fire]

6.5 is the same mm as a sbc so it should work on a 6.2 as well. personally id go with the 6.5 way more potential there. if i were u id call ss diesel supply or heath diesel and talk about the kind of tunning there can do with that motor as far as power and mpg. any problems with the motor they can also address

 

[FL cruiser]

The Advance Adapter standard Chevy motor mounts will work. I originally ordered a set, but sent them back. I didn't care for them that much and didn't feel comfortable using them on the diesel. You might find them ok. Lots of varied opinions here on this boartd on AA mounts.
You'll have to call AA on the phone to ask questions. It's a hit and miss finding someone knowlegeable on your particular conversion or someone genuinely helpful. I don't think anyone there knows that much about 6.2's in Land Cruisers. I finally got one helpful guy that called Marks Adapters and one of their vendors to get a couple answers.
The only thing I don't like about the early J motors (It's what I got), is the rope type rear main seal. Damn things leak. Definitely replace before installing the engine. In a 60, any radiator wider than stock will have you redesigning your A/C system. The condensor lines 90 through the radiator support next to the radiator. A larger radiator makes the stock condensor and A/C hoses useless. I would think a turbo would need a larger than stock 60 radiator if the vehicle will be worked at all. At least that's what a guy with a 6.5 turbo 60 told me. He was ok until he towed or floored it going up a mountain. I never found room up front for an oil cooler. I ended up using a marine water cooled heat exchanger and mounting it between the frame and body under the drivers door.
I've seen pics of a turbo'd 6.5 60. Pretty good size sections of wheel wells were cut out on both sides. On the pass side to make room for the turbo, on the drivers side above the steering box for the crossover pipe to get back in the engine compartment and attach to drivers side manifold.
Can't wait to hear more on the installs and see some install pics!

 

[BigGun J]

Water temp. I am concerned that I will have problems with temperature? That is why I was thinking about the air cooled oil cooler. I doubted I could mount one in front so have been looking for sizes and options for placement "protected placement" After I get the motor installed and see what the fitment is then I will pursue the turbo. Banks offers two styles for the chevy. Early and later body style. The early in down low and mounted to the front and the later is mounted center and above the exhaust manifild. I dont know how low or hi the motor will sit yet? For now I am in the gathering parts and information. I have read FL cruiser swap post more then a few times. Good information and helpful.

Jim

 

[rtarh2o]

Anyone know of another source for the 700r4 to FZJ80 transfer case adapater? I spoke with Advance Adapters yesterday and they are out of stock, said it takes 6 weeks to get them from Australia? I guess I could order them from Marks but the only time I received a reply from them they said their products were available through Advance. I have tried e-mailing 2-3 times since and never gotten a reply.
Has anyone had any luck with Marks, or better yet have an adapter laying around?
Rusty

 

[rtarh2o]

Made some progress since my last post, my 94 FZJ80 is in my shop and being prepped for enging removal, the best part is that I have found an engine. I was at my mothers house in Arkansas and was checking the classifieds and found someone selling some military 6.2's. I have been skeptical about buying these sight unseen so I went to check them out at this guys shop. They looked really clean, he runs each engine and does a compression check before selling them. The real selling point for me was that I got to drive his converted Chevrolet 2500 4x4 truck. I thought it felt considerably more powerful than my FZJ80, maybe the military units put out more power? Nothing at all like my old FJ62 like I was expecting. Anyway, I was sold. He said he is getting about 18mpg with his truck (which he said he put on some truck scales and it weighed nearly 6,000 lbs) and that is without an overdrive transmission and a 4.10 rear end. He also swapped one into his old full size customized van and gets about 22 mpg with it. The van has a much lower rear end but still no overdrive. He is suppossed to deliver the engine to me in about a week, can't wait! Now I still need to find the 700R4 adapter. I will post some pics if anyone is interested once I get the swap going.
Rusty
94 FAJ80

 

[arcteryx]

Made some progress since my last post, my 94 FZJ80 is in my shop and being prepped for enging removal, the best part is that I have found an engine. I was at my mothers house in Arkansas and was checking the classifieds and found someone selling some military 6.2's. I have been skeptical about buying these sight unseen so I went to check them out at this guys shop. They looked really clean, he runs each engine and does a compression check before selling them. The real selling point for me was that I got to drive his converted Chevrolet 2500 4x4 truck. I thought it felt considerably more powerful than my FZJ80, maybe the military units put out more power? Nothing at all like my old FJ62 like I was expecting. Anyway, I was sold. He said he is getting about 18mpg with his truck (which he said he put on some truck scales and it weighed nearly 6,000 lbs) and that is without an overdrive transmission and a 4.10 rear end. He also swapped one into his old full size customized van and gets about 22 mpg with it. The van has a much lower rear end but still no overdrive. He is suppossed to deliver the engine to me in about a week, can't wait! Now I still need to find the 700R4 adapter. I will post some pics if anyone is interested once I get the swap going.
Rusty
94 FAJ80

Thanks for the update. Please post some pics and keep up informed.

 

[amar]

Made some progress since my last post, my 94 FZJ80 is in my shop and being prepped for enging removal, the best part is that I have found an engine. I was at my mothers house in Arkansas and was checking the classifieds and found someone selling some military 6.2's. I have been skeptical about buying these sight unseen so I went to check them out at this guys shop. They looked really clean, he runs each engine and does a compression check before selling them. The real selling point for me was that I got to drive his converted Chevrolet 2500 4x4 truck. I thought it felt considerably more powerful than my FZJ80, maybe the military units put out more power? Nothing at all like my old FJ62 like I was expecting. Anyway, I was sold. He said he is getting about 18mpg with his truck (which he said he put on some truck scales and it weighed nearly 6,000 lbs) and that is without an overdrive transmission and a 4.10 rear end. He also swapped one into his old full size customized van and gets about 22 mpg with it. The van has a much lower rear end but still no overdrive. He is suppossed to deliver the engine to me in about a week, can't wait! Now I still need to find the 700R4 adapter. I will post some pics if anyone is interested once I get the swap going.
Rusty
94 FAJ80

How much one of these weigh? Esp. compared to a 1HZ/1HD?

 

[ChuckB]

I'm interested to see how this turns out. Good luck on the swap!

 

[rtarh2o]

I don't know how much the 1HZ or 1HD weigh but the 6.2 is in the neighborhood of around 750 lbs, about 100 lbs heavier than what came in it, it should work out well. From what I have read it was built as a light weight fuel effecient engine during the fuel crunch in the early 80's
Rusty

 

[GM60]

6.2 weighs 700 pounds.

 

[made4surf]

It must be lighter than a 2F because my truck lifted 1" after installation and thats with an NV4500.

 

[rtarh2o]

Anyone know how much the 1FZ weighs? I am going to go with a lift and guess I will go with the medium lift for the extra weight.
Rusty

 

[tntoyota]

I From what I have read it was built as a light weight fuel effecient engine during the fuel crunch in the early 80's
Rusty

If that where true it wouldn't have 8 pistons!


Believe everything they tell you about that motor...


supply & demand

 

[rtarh2o]

I have done alot of research on this engine and I don't believe everything I read but I do believe that these engines can be built to be very reliable for many miles. As I said in another post, the great thing about this engine is that it is 25 years old, the bugs have all been worked out. Supply and demand is great in my opinion, that is why I am going this route, I would really prefer a toyota diesel but they are basically impossible to get and parts are the same story. I can go to most any auto supply and get anything I need for the Chevy diesel, and it is inexpensive. Is that a problem? I think I can get around 20 mpg with the 6.2 and if the converted Chevy 2500 truck I drove is any indication of the way it will perform I will be very happy. I will have about $4,500 total in the conversion and everything will be freshly rebuilt and reliable (I hope)
I hope I am right and you are wrong but if you have any real knowledge about problems with this engine please let me know. I going ahead with the conversion and will let you know how it works out.
Rusty

 

[ChuckB]

I have no personal experience with the GM 6.2/6.5 other than riding around in HMMVs, but I think that a lot of people give these engines a bad rap.
Of course there are known issues. There are known issues with Toyota engines (1FZE head gaskets(small %), 3.slow, etc.) and all manufacturers as well. I wouldn't let that dissuade you.
Some people simple dislike them purely because they are a GM product. I personally have never owned a GM product, exception of my GM owned Saab. So, I don't really have an opinion either way.
Of course I would love to have a Toyota diesel in my 55. But, for some people, depending on what state they live in with regard to smog laws, parts availibility or mechanical ability, having a Toyota diesel is just not an option.
I can personally think of at least 3 people who have swapped the GM Diesel engines into there cruiser and have been happy with them.
I say go for it if thats what you really want to do. That's just my $.02...

Here's a couple links of non-Cruiser related swaps.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/chevy/0554dp_62l_buildup/index.html

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/trucks/0704dp_1978_international_biodiesel_scout/index1.html

 

[tntoyota]

I have done alot of research on this engine and I don't believe everything I read but I do believe that these engines can be built to be very reliable for many miles. As I said in another post, the great thing about this engine is that it is 25 years old, the bugs have all been worked out. Supply and demand is great in my opinion, that is why I am going this route, I would really prefer a toyota diesel but they are basically impossible to get and parts are the same story. I can go to most any auto supply and get anything I need for the Chevy diesel, and it is inexpensive. Is that a problem? I think I can get around 20 mpg with the 6.2 and if the converted Chevy 2500 truck I drove is any indication of the way it will perform I will be very happy. I will have about $4,500 total in the conversion and everything will be freshly rebuilt and reliable (I hope)
I hope I am right and you are wrong but if you have any real knowledge about problems with this engine please let me know. I going ahead with the conversion and will let you know how it works out.
Rusty

True-dat!

I have no personal experience with the GM 6.2/6.5 other than riding around in HMMVs, but I think that a lot of people give these engines a bad rap.
Of course there are known issues. There are known issues with Toyota engines (1FZE head gaskets(small %), 3.slow, etc.) and all manufacturers as well. I wouldn't let that dissuade you.
Some people simple dislike them purely because they are a GM product. I personally have never owned a GM product, exception of my GM owned Saab. So, I don't really have an opinion either way.
Of course I would love to have a Toyota diesel in my 55. But, for some people, depending on what state they live in with regard to smog laws, parts availibility or mechanical ability, having a Toyota diesel is just not an option.
I can personally think of at least 3 people who have swapped the GM Diesel engines into there cruiser and have been happy with them.
I say go for it if thats what you really want to do. That's just my $.02...

Here's a couple links of non-Cruiser related swaps.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/chevy/0554dp_62l_buildup/index.html

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/trucks/0704dp_1978_international_biodiesel_scout/index1.html

I DO have a problem with this statement though!


1: The 6.2.5 (whatever) in sivi Hummer sucks!!!


2: Why? Because they don't all ride around knowing that we have a full service all expense paid motor pool back at the house in case they break something, thats not a very good reason to say why you think its a good motor.

supply & demand