anyone using the Slee stripper pole tire mount?

[jcardona1]

Are you seriously comparing seat belts to ratchet straps?

What grand illusion are you living in?

I don't see the difference. We use seat belts to secure a 200lb person in place so they don't become projectile. Why cant a few straps rated for a couple thousand pounds do the same for a 100lb tire?

 

[Columbia Cruiser]

Seriously, don't take this personal. Its cool if you are cheap and want to use some 2x4s and ratchet straps to prop up your tire inside your vehicle.

Just don't try to convince me and everyone else its the way to go. I'd hide that sh** if I were you. Keep it to yourself.

Yeah, i use ratchet straps. Ratchet straps are great, just like duct tape. Duct tape is great. I just don't go around ratchet strapping everything I can, ya know??

Annd yes the sheet metal cargo hooks will go, good point!! But, aren't you just proving my point?? Don't strap your tire in the passenger compartment with ratchet straps??

Thanks.

lets see your rear storage set up. do you secure anything to your roof? how? have a rear bumper with anything attached to it?

I am cheap, and poor. and my spare is in the stock location I was simply stating that a ratchet strap rated for holding weight by the ton is plenty, I would worry about the bracket ripping out of the sheet metal before worrying about the strap. by the way your 5 year old is over weight. ************

 

[Columbia Cruiser]

Agreed, until I can swivel my head like an owl, its on the passenger side.

You guys ever heard of mirrors??? try them out. hahaha

with the weight of the gas tank on the drivers side why not mount the pole and tire on the passenger side?

 

[justbecause]

Agreed, until I can swivel my head like an owl, its on the passenger side.

You guys ever heard of mirrors??? try them out. hahaha

Have you shown us your innovative solution for mounting a spare?

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[lugueto]

I think this thread has gone off into a stupid ass direction.

You cant compare ratchet straps to seat belts, and dont convince anybody to do anything this dodgy not even if you do it yourself.

The idea of the spare on the interior for me is dumb i'd rather have it on a rear swingout of any sort. But if you do the stripper pole carrier then use the most attachment points you possibly can and use the straps only as EXTRA insurance, never on their own.

 

[Columbia Cruiser]

I had a slee pole until I sold my lx450. But, you already knew that since you checked my profile......

Have you shown us your innovative solution for mounting a spare?

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[Columbia Cruiser]

Ok, for some reason people are having a hard time wrapping their heads around this concept.

This is a joke, don't do this. Only lay your tire flat if you are going to strap it down and only briefly. Annnd get some real straps. The home depot, car quest straps are no good.

You guys buy $1,000 lifts, $1,000 bumpers, $1,000 winches but, cry when someone suggests mounting your spare tire safely.

Ok pulled out 2 old ratchet straps. Works perfectly!!!

 

[Columbia Cruiser]

Slee pole is nice, I've had one, it does take up room and it rattles.

One mounting point, bolts to the hub.

I also think it kinda looks like doo daa too, its a post in your truck.

 

[Columbia Cruiser]

Looks good,

One attachment point, hub mount.

Tire's entire weight is left to bounce on floor, as the bracket is cantilevered.

Mounting points only on fender scare me. Nothing to prevent side to side movement.

Or, you could use one of these...

 

[Columbia Cruiser]

This thing looks awesome,

Tucked up to fender

Two mounting points, hub and strap.

Mounts to the floor and fender???

Side to side, front to back this looks stable!

You all have probably seen our spare tire carrier. Best of both worlds, hub mounted and strapped. 2X the security and safety. And it butts right up to the fender well.

http://jonesysautoclub.com/shop/80-series-accessories/80-series-land-cruiser-spare-tire-carrier/

I agree, its a safety issue, don't put anything like a tire in your passenger compartment and just ratchet strap it down. You and your passengers are at risk in the even of an accident.

 

[justbecause]

I had a slee pole until I sold my lx450. But, you already knew that since you checked my profile......

Paranoid much? I didn't know you had a pole. Didnt you say you wouldn't trust the mounting points for a pole?

I don't have my spare in the back but I do have a heavy ass arb fridge and I am certain the flimsy handle would break before a strap.

But since neither a tire or fridge can fit over the back seat I am not in the least but worried about them hitting me or anyone else in a crash.

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[Tools R Us]

Its pretty obvious you can strap your tire down in the back, I don't think it takes a bunch of "me too" pics to show us how to use a ratchet strap.

The real issue is SAFETY. Do you trust some rachet straps to keep your tire from becoming a missile when you are in an accident???

I think not. Securely fasten your tire, or get it out of the passenger compartment.

Properly rated, properly used, ratchet straps will hold a spare in the rig. Nothing can be 100% but this is damn close. Have you ever looked at off road racers? They often have impact loads measured in the 100G range, often use a ratchet strap to hold the spare and have never seen one come loose. Lots of jumps, accidents, roll overs, etc, never seen one come loose, ever.

Ratchet straps are commonly used to hold very heavy loads on semi trailers, how many do you see falling off? Do you allow your kids to ride in your car around/following that type of foolishness? One would think that a load of pipe, tens of thousands of pounds, falling off at highway speed would be at least as bad as a spare?

A good quality strap, properly fastened, will easily hold a 100lb spare. Yes, it will wiggle a bit, it's a rubber tire, held by a nylon strap, so has slight give, but isn't significantly going anywhere. If involved in an accident with high enough loads the break it, the spare is going to be the least of the worries, likely the occupants will never worry again, regardless of what the spare did.

 

[justbecause]

Properly rated, properly used, ratchet straps will hold a spare in the rig. Nothing can be 100% but this is damn close. Have you ever looked at off road racers? They often have impact loads measured in the 100G range, often use a ratchet strap to hold the spare and have never seen one come loose. Lots of jumps, accidents, roll overs, etc, never seen one come loose, ever.

Ratchet straps are commonly used to hold very heavy loads on semi trailers, how many do you see falling off? Do you allow your kids to ride in your car around/following that type of foolishness? One would think that a load of pipe, tens of thousands of pounds, falling off at highway speed would be at least as bad as a spare?

A good quality strap, properly fastened, will easily hold a 100lb spare. Yes, it will wiggle a bit, it's a rubber tire, held by a nylon strap, so has slight give, but isn't significantly going anywhere. If involved in an accident with high enough loads the break it, the spare is going to be the least of the worries, likely the occupants will never worry again, regardless of what the spare did.

This^

If you have a wreck sever enough to break a strap your occupants are going to be dale earnhardt.

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[Tools R Us]

Are you seriously comparing seat belts to ratchet straps?

What grand illusion are you living in?

Why not, ever had one apart, that is basically what they are.

The strap is woven differently than most tie downs, but this is largely for flexibility, comfort and long life with constant repeated use. Tie downs don't have this need, so can be made with a coarser, less flexible weave.

The ratchet mechanism isn't all of that. Tie down ratchets are commonly made much stronger, higher load rating, than than seat belt ratchets.

All webbing, including seat belt, loose elasticity/strength with age. Nylon and polyester, commonly used in seat belts it happens relatively quickly. Most racing sanctioning bodies require replacement at 2 years. With your level of paranoia, how often do you replace your seat belts?

 

[Mtbcoach]

Looks good,

One attachment point, hub mount.

Tire's entire weight is left to bounce on floor, as the bracket is cantilevered.

Mounting points only on fender scare me. Nothing to prevent side to side movement.

Tire's weight on the floor is decided by the user, mount can easily support the weight of the tire. I suppose if someone wanted to, they could push any "flex" out of the mount, then tighten the tire to the mount. I've not had any complaints from someone running a "37" nor have I had anyone report any rattling or bouncing but I've not sold one to any desert racers, yet...

Lateral movement isn't a big load in most 80's unless some are pulling heavy G's through the canyons but I'm sure some would find its limits...

The 5 mounting points include 4 of the seat rail mount points and along with the seat belt bolt mount. I included this mount point due to its higher level of structural support...

 

[Columbia Cruiser]

Tools, are you seriously comparing this to what baja racers use???

And Tools, if you are going to tell the world ratchet straps are the same as seat belts, then are all ratchet straps made the same?? Come on, lets get specific!!

Do what you want, rock your expensive blingy bumpers with your cheap a** interior spare tire solutions, its cool. Don't forget your Badlands winch too. hahaha

I'm sticking with Slee, MTBcoach and Jonesy's Solutions!!!

Ok pulled out 2 old ratchet straps. Works perfectly!!!

 

[Pin_Head]

This one went down hill fast.

 

[devildogcruiser25]

To heck with it all! Just ratchet strap it to the OEM roof rack!

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[Tools R Us]

Tools, are you seriously comparing this to what baja racers use???

I wasn't referring to that example at all. Done correctly a strap system will hold a spare just fine.

And Tools, if you are going to tell the world ratchet straps are the same as seat belts, then are all ratchet straps made the same?? Come on, lets get specific!!

I'm not going to endorse any brand, but there are plenty of good ratchet straps.

Do what you want, rock your expensive blingy bumpers with your cheap a** interior spare tire solutions, its cool. Don't forget your Badlands winch too. hahaha

I'm sticking with Slee, MTBcoach and Jonesy's Solutions!!!

My blingy bumper? I don't even have or want a winch? Know a few who own, use and have had good service from Badlands winches.

I'm happy that you found something that you like.

 

[Mr Cimarron]

I had a roll over in a past Jeep. My 33" spare was ratchet strapped flat in the back using two 4" heavy duty straps. It was still there after the crash. However my left rear wheel that decided to come off to cause the accident came bouncing down the road smashing into the drivers door/window as I was collecting myself.
I don't see why a strap can't hold a tire down as long as its a proper strap for the job.