Not for me. Have a TJM on a 2018. Worked fine also when I had one on a 2016.
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Not for me. Have a TJM on a 2018. Worked fine also when I had one on a 2016.
Sure they do, you just have to bug the ever living crap out of them for half a year to convince them to make it for you haha.
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Too late for this rig, but good to know for the next one!Sure they do, you just have to bug the ever living crap out of them for half a year to convince them to make it for you haha.
What year is your lx
2009. Fit would be similar thru the 2015 model. There is another Rival bar for 2016+.
Personally I think I'd go with Dissent. Keep it light and keep it tight. I think it's easy to make the LC200 a heavy and bulky beast. As much as I appreciate the protection provided by a full Aussie bar you're adding quite a bit of additional weight. A full bar probably weighs 225lbs. The Dissent weighs 100lbs. I guess if you've gone full expedition with a rear bumper with swing outs, sliders, skids, drawers, RTT's then an additional 125lbs isn't a huge deal but if you prefer to keep things daily driver friendly then being weigh conscious will keep the vehicle happier. I been there, done that with my previous rigs and additional weight just adds complexity, problems, and will drive like a slug even with the 5.7L V8. I've been able to keep the weight mostly off on my current 200 and still enjoy the way it drives and performs as a DD.
I agree with the dissent being a good choice. It is not the only aluminum/lightweight option however.
What’s the other options
I’d be all over Slee’s Heritage bumper if they didn’t just do it as a one off. So much better looking than their production bumper. Other than that Dissent takes the cake.
Rival4x4 is Aluminum shell over a steel winch mount and weighs 110 lb.
TJM had an alloy bar, but I haven't seen it mentioned in a while, might be discontinued, It was around 120lb if i recall.
I believe Victory4x4 was offering their bumper in Aluminum as well.
I've had the Rival for 18 months and it still looks new. I took off 40 lbs of stuff, so the bumper net was around 70 lb, not counting the winch (60 more lb). Total add to the front around 130lb. Using these spring rubbers to increase the spring rate up front, as we haven't been able to find stiffer springs for the LX yet.
the upside to the full steel bullbar vs aluminum is strength…if you hit an animal it may save the vehicle.
or if find yourself boxed in by vehicles (riot seasons in the United States are getting more common), then having the ability to push vehicles out of the way could be handy.
As far as the extra weight, I had an “emergency” handling situation a week or so ago and had to “dodge” road debris at around 50 mph…and I have the fully winched bullbar, sliders, 35’s, arb rear bumper, wilco swingaway…heavy…I was very surprised at how controlled the vehicle was.
I’ve got 2 spring rubbers on each coil, slightly uprated rear left coil, and coil spacers on the rear…plus fresh accumulators…but it handled well and i didn’t feel overweight or out of control…it was tight and predictable.
Yeah, I view the aluminum shell as 'sacrificial', meaning it will probably crack in an impact and have to be replaced. Whether that crack would be a reparable dent in steel is probably incident specific. No hoop option on most alloy bars, not sure why that is, but agree that it reduces usefulness for large animal strikes.
I used to care about overall weight of the build, but at this point with so much stuff added to the base weight, I'm not sure that a 100 or 200 lbs overall is that big a deal as a percentage., even way outboard like a bumper is.
What color dual spring rubbers are you running?
Blue and black on each corner (plus I swapped the rear driver side coil for a new passenger rear longer stronger coil…plus coil spacers on top of the coils).
I’ve thought about buying a pair of green ones to swap in for each corner to see if the truck would have trouble getting into low…then I’d REALLY know the rubber shox were “helping.”
For now though: with blue and black (properly sized) it doesn’t feel wandery/squirrely on the highway.
It feels surprisingly oem in “sport” mode…and it feels like “comfort” mode actually works around town (like I notice if I’ve accidentally left sport mode on).
The Dissent is a great option for keeping weight down, which can add up quickly on a built rig, so I see the value. I am in deer and moose country, with constant backcountry drives, so I wanted a full bull bar. My Ironman bars continue down into the bumper (seems older ones may not have). I trust it against Deer, and hopefully the bar would keep a moose out of my windshield (no guarantee with a big one). Moose scare the crap out of me. Their dark color makes them hard to see at night, and they are just the right height to slam through your windshield.
The Dissent is an awesome light design but it appears like the bull bar bolts on with little reinforcement, I'm sure it does a decent job for the weight, but not sure I'd trust it against a big animal.
For those talking about the TJM aluminum, they told me they don't make/sell one for the 16+ and are no longer importing the pre 16 aluminum. That was a couple years ago so that may have changed.
We’re so spoiled to have so many good options for such a small market.
I’ll add that Slee now offers a hybrid AL/Steel option.
SLEE - Aluminum Hybrid Front Bumper - 08+ Land Cruiser - Slee Off Road
Features Outer shell, light pockets and stinger fabricated from Aluminium. Mounting brackets and winch frame made from 3/8” and 1/4” steel Mounting brackets attach to vehicle frame with 8 bolts per frame rail – 16 bolts in total Upswept wings for optimum approach angle Recovery points integrated...
sleeoffroad.com
And for what it’s worth. The original Slee heritage bumper was just too complicated of a design to ever be practical for production, I do still like it though. Some subtle things I’d change about it’s styling, but still high on my list.
About ARB, I have one on my 4th gen 4runner. I hit a deer with it about 3 weeks ago. I was doing about 60 mph, I didn't even have time to hit the brakes.
When I pulled over I was expecting a mess, not much to speak of. It got knocked a little out of whack, I think I can just unbolt and straighten out. It hit about where the winch is to the right side. Saved my front end.
Which bumper for the 200 doesn't require any cutting of the body or frame?
When I pulled over I was expecting a mess, not much to speak of. It got knocked a little out of whack, I think I can just unbolt and straighten out. It hit about where the winch is to the right side. Saved my front end.
Which bumper for the 200 doesn't require any cutting of the body or frame?
I don’t think there is one for the lx570.
Dissent has a no cut bumper for the face lifted lc200
Usually it is just plastic bumper cutting. I don’t know of any bumper that requires frame modifications.
You don’t have to cut frame or sheet metal. Same for LX570
