An ethical dilemma?

[canucksafari]

the proper venue is to offer the CO a full refund including shipping of the truck (in the condition it is in now) and a written apology for "missing" the flaws.

Wayne, sadly, doing the proper thing is not a common business practice anymore. Neighbour told me on the weekend that he had bought a gold & diamond ring for his girl friend at a national department store which is being taken over by a US chain. Cost him about $1000. She took it into a jeweler to be properly sized and the jewelers said he would not touch it as it was fake. My neighbour went to take it back to the store and manager insisted all sales were final and refuse to take it back regardless if it was really sold under false pretenses. Police ended up being called and now it will likely end up in court. At least that is what the police officer recommended. WTF?

Funny, isn't it. If you steal something in a store and you go to jail and/or get charged but if a business steals from a customer the police tell you to go to court.

It always is good to hear about most of the mud member businesses fighting against the trend to rip off customers and make a quick buck. Keep it up Jim. We need more business people like you in the world.

 

[Trapper50cal]

...But I'll tell you what, it's worth the investment. Even if you have 100 completely satisfied customers, it only takes one of these situations to put you out of business. So it's worthwhile to take a hit on this sale and do what it takes to rectify the situation. And of course, it's just the right thing to do!

A little more advice for you (take it or leave it). It seems that you are trying to move the mud community's perception of you more toward the positive, so with that goal in mind, I suggest you stop attacking Jim... even if you believe in your own mind that it's warranted. Whether you believe he deserves the respect he's been given by the members of this forum is irrelevant; the fact is that he has that respect, and the more you attack him, the more you will be perceived as the outsider/bad guy... and the more people will show their support for him and their outrage toward you. This isn't so much a mob mentality- this is people supporting somebody who they respect. Imagine if you were in Jim's position- having earned the respect of the landcruiser community... you get there by handling situations like this correctly and being as forthright and honest as possible.

Anyway, it takes balls to change course, so here's to a clean(ish) resolution between parties.

Couldn't....Agree...more...

Absolutely correct.

 

[itbrokeagain]

Unless I missed it or didn't read between the lines I never saw a threat to Brett in any way. I am still confused as to what Jim has actually done wrong in this forum.
I will say this. Other than Brett I have never heard one bad thing about Jim. Nothing from this board and nothing from other people I hav e spoken with. We have a common friend so Jim has come up a few times.

Sent from my Nexus S using IH8MUD

 

[FJ40Jim]

No longer on ebay?

Was perusing the thread about outrageously overpriced Cruiser parts on ebay, which reminded me to have a look at the remarkable Cruiser that "fj40man79" was selling this week.

Looks like nothing? The user ID doesn't exist. Shouldn't it say "No longer a registered user" or something?

 

[semlin]

name change?

http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/fj40man83/

 

[custyota]

The town is right.

 

[FJ40Jim]

It would appear to be so. The ID history is there.

 

[krzyabncanuck]

Yep.

User ID Effective Date End Date

fj40man83 Oct-12-12 Present


fj40man79 Apr-09-07 Oct-12-12


fj40nut1947 Jan-14-07 Apr-09-07


pistonpat2005 Jun-27-05 Jan-14-07

 

[crushers]

wow, this guy is seriously deceiving.
an embarrasment to the Land Cruiser community.

 

[NorCal Cruiser]

Yep.

User ID Effective Date End Date

fj40man83 Oct-12-12 Present


fj40man79 Apr-09-07 Oct-12-12


fj40nut1947 Jan-14-07 Apr-09-07


pistonpat2005 Jun-27-05 Jan-14-07

I didn't know eBay allowed you to change your user name. It seems like changing your name would make it hard for people to find you when they do a search- but I'm sure that has nothing to do with B Y of B, WA's name change.

 

[itbrokeagain]

Has anything happened from this or is it all talk?

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[myquestoyota]

Has anything happened from this or is it all talk?

Sent from my Nexus S using IH8MUD

It's all chat at this point. We have no skin in the game, we are just chatting. I'll stay out of Jim's personal business.

 

[spotcruiser]

Wow. He's like a snake shedding his skin.

Yep.

User ID Effective Date End Date

fj40man83 Oct-12-12 Present


fj40man79 Apr-09-07 Oct-12-12


fj40nut1947 Jan-14-07 Apr-09-07


pistonpat2005 Jun-27-05 Jan-14-07

 

[SouthBostonFJ40]

Yep.

User ID Effective Date End Date

fj40man83 Oct-12-12 Present

fj40man79 Apr-09-07 Oct-12-12

fj40nut1947 Jan-14-07 Apr-09-07

pistonpat2005 Jun-27-05 Jan-14-07

I see fj40man83 effective from 2005.

EDIT: I understand how it works. Carry on, nothing to see here.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I see fj40man83 effective from 2005.

It links to the original user ID as well as the feedback, so if you searched on any of those previous ID's it would still bring you to whatever the current one is. So you can't really hide by changing your ID, you'd have to create a whole new account.

 

[doug720]

Interesting picture in the ebay "My World" above. That 40 on his page is in the Toyota museum in Torrance CA!

Doug

 

[SouthBostonFJ40]

Interesting picture in the ebay "My World" above. That 40 on his page is in the Toyota museum in Torrance CA!

Doug

I think you can upload any profile picture you like. This would be more appropriate...

 

[Mattnatti]

I am certainly not defending this guy's actions now or in the past but if, Judging the changing of names/ making a new account on eBay it must be judged the same for all. There is a well respected vendor on this very forum who has recently done the same thing ( changed his eBay name ) after feedback percentage dropped to a certain level.

The circumstances ARE indeed different but the action is the same.

Just saying.

 

[semlin]

it's not a new account, it's just a name change. he has lots of very good feedback on the old account including multiple positive feedback from selling expensive 40s.

you could speculate the name change came about because a google search of the old one would bring up this thread. or maybe he just wanted to move on.

 

[Spike Strip]

I call BIG Bull s***, Mattnatti - anyone who knows what you're referring to knows the REASONS behind that "same action" were entirely different. REALLY REALLY unfair to the vendor, here, to compare the two.

Not gonna say more.