I just sent out another updated contact list (3.0) with your numbers included.
Alaska Cruiser Trek 2008
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I just sent out another updated contact list (3.0) with your numbers included.
Hey Mark, I don't have a CB. I have a ham and a couple of GMRS radios. Will this suffice?
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
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A cb would be helpful just because I do not expect everyone to have a 2m... I will be running both and I expect that one or more of our locals will as well. all of the Alaskans will have cbs. And I expect that all of us from up here will have a GMRS or four in the rig
It is frustrating in the extreme to have to try to coordinate with a few people communicating on one frequency and a couple on another
One or the other is a requirement... Th GMRS are nice for out of vehicle use... I love them for than... but when traveling the trail... we have found that they are almost always not loud enough to hear in a modified FJ40... and they can be a pain n th ass because people don't secure them... you are calling them and the radio has bounced under the seat
I may have some cbs and mag antennas that can be tossed in rigs real quick
I have to look as see what is on th shelf
even a hand held is better than nothing... of course it has some of th same limitations that th hand heald GMRS has
if every one has a 2m... tht is by far the best... but I do not expect that to happen.
Mark...
A cb would be helpful just because I do not expect everyone to have a 2m... I will be running both and I expect that one or more of our locals will as well. all of the Alaskans will have cbs. And I expect that all of us from up here will have a GMRS or four in the rig
It is frustrating in the extreme to have to try to coordinate with a few people communicating on one frequency and a couple on another
One or the other is a requirement... Th GMRS are nice for out of vehicle use... I love them for than... but when traveling the trail... we have found that they are almost always not loud enough to hear in a modified FJ40... and they can be a pain n th ass because people don't secure them... you are calling them and the radio has bounced under the seat
I may have some cbs and mag antennas that can be tossed in rigs real quick
I have to look as see what is on th shelf
even a hand held is better than nothing... of course it has some of th same limitations that th hand heald GMRS has
if every one has a 2m... tht is by far the best... but I do not expect that to happen.
Mark...
Thanks Mark. I have a handheld CB but it is a p.i.a. JUst another excuse to spend money! Now to decide on using my RTT or rough it. cya
Another joins the Trek
Hey fellow Cruiser Trekkers, wanted to introduce myself before ya'll hit the highway. ....member of the loosely organized Alaska Cruiser Crew. Been wheelin' with Mark up here for about 10 yrs. and have enjoyed a few Cruiser Treks during that time. I was a "relief driver" during the '06 Cruiser Trek cuz I was a looser and didn't own a Cruiser of my own for a spell.
For the '08 Trek, I finally have my own - an 80 series that actually came up from Colorado for the '06 Trek. When MUD member DEVO decided to sell it a few months after the Trek I hopped a plane to Denver and drove it home. It works really well for the wheelin' we do up here and hauls the little family nicely too.
I look forward to meeting ya'll and if history is any lesson, we're in for a rousing good time!
Medicbob, I'll PM you my contact details to add to the list.
I live in Anchorage. Let me know if I can help with anything as we roll towards the trailhead.
Hey fellow Cruiser Trekkers, wanted to introduce myself before ya'll hit the highway. ....member of the loosely organized Alaska Cruiser Crew. Been wheelin' with Mark up here for about 10 yrs. and have enjoyed a few Cruiser Treks during that time. I was a "relief driver" during the '06 Cruiser Trek cuz I was a looser and didn't own a Cruiser of my own for a spell.
For the '08 Trek, I finally have my own - an 80 series that actually came up from Colorado for the '06 Trek. When MUD member DEVO decided to sell it a few months after the Trek I hopped a plane to Denver and drove it home. It works really well for the wheelin' we do up here and hauls the little family nicely too.
I look forward to meeting ya'll and if history is any lesson, we're in for a rousing good time!
Medicbob, I'll PM you my contact details to add to the list.
I live in Anchorage. Let me know if I can help with anything as we roll towards the trailhead.
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Has this website been shared yet?
Alaska Cruiser Trek 2003 - PHOTOS
Don't want to ruin the anticipation but fellow ACC member, Gina, has some great photos of past ACT events.
Alaska Cruiser Trek 2003 - PHOTOS
Don't want to ruin the anticipation but fellow ACC member, Gina, has some great photos of past ACT events.
Ratpuke
SILVER Star
Damn... if Ratpuke offers to rid shotgun... I'd make damn sure I had a seat open!
Mark...
Is Gina coming out this year ? She sure captures some amazing photos.
No, she moved back to Idaho last year after 16 years in the AK. I sure miss her photo skills too. Heck, I had to ask her to send me a picture of my rig yesterday so I could post one here. With Gina around I stopped taking pictures years ago. Gonna have to do better this summer.
I offered her my passenger seat but she already had vacation plans elsewhere.
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4.0 just sent
I hope someone can send me a Garmin track file of this trip, it would be really cool to check out the profile.
Clutchee
I'm fun sized!
Dont worry folks.....as many of my fellow cruiser heads know.....I'll take enough photos for everyone to have a full album.
At GSMTR a few weeks ago I took over 350 pictures.....not all were the best but many were GREAT!
Look forward to meetin everyone & as always .......ready to lend a helping hand.
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
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We'll need to talk on this subject some while you guys are here... but in general I'd ask that you not make any broad commitments to share accurate trail info. once it is put there it has a way of spreading... and getting back into more local hands.
Like anywhere else, we have our share of posuers and webwheelers up here... who have no business being put on the trails on their own. Give them a gps log off the internet, with trailheads shown and a line on the map to follow... and they think they are ready to go.
Trouble for them ... for example when they have problems with a river crossing they should never have tried... 50 miles into the mountains.
Increased traffic and impact on sometimes fragile trails, that I have put a lot of effort in to finding or in some cases making... time in th field... time overflying..., time networking with old sourdoughs.
Then there is the increased attention during hunting season... Hunting camps and prime habit can be closely held secrets... this area has it's share of both.
And the pilfering and theft for unattended minesites and flat out historical ruins.
All in all... this is public land that we are on... but knowledge of the area represents a major investment. And there are other reasons to not want to encourage use by those who are not wiling to work for it and to respect the area and all that is there. And by those who simply should not be encouraged to be out there without someone to offer guidance... for their own safety.
Obviously it is not for me to deny access... but most of us try to not toss information out too easily to whoever might find it.
In general trail routes and locations and such are held close to the vest up here. It is one thing to share with a small select group who come up from the '48 and travel the trails with us. But it is another to provide the information to anyone who may find it... either some of our locals who may be less than admirable or any enthusiastic but unprepared "adventurers" on a road trip north.
I may upset some here on this board by taking this attitude... But I submit that "things are different here"... and I'll stand by that
. Just ask some of the folks who have come up to run with us in the past.
Or ask Bruce and Charla about our explorations last year... and that was in a fairly well known and used area too...
If you want to share the route info... just be very careful with who... and please do not post it up on a web page or any other approach that puts it out there for the world. Something like that would probably, almost certainly mean the end to any future Treks... the gains from the Treks come nowhere near the losses that such disemination could result in.
Mark...
Like anywhere else, we have our share of posuers and webwheelers up here... who have no business being put on the trails on their own. Give them a gps log off the internet, with trailheads shown and a line on the map to follow... and they think they are ready to go.
Trouble for them ... for example when they have problems with a river crossing they should never have tried... 50 miles into the mountains.
Increased traffic and impact on sometimes fragile trails, that I have put a lot of effort in to finding or in some cases making... time in th field... time overflying..., time networking with old sourdoughs.
Then there is the increased attention during hunting season... Hunting camps and prime habit can be closely held secrets... this area has it's share of both.
And the pilfering and theft for unattended minesites and flat out historical ruins.
All in all... this is public land that we are on... but knowledge of the area represents a major investment. And there are other reasons to not want to encourage use by those who are not wiling to work for it and to respect the area and all that is there. And by those who simply should not be encouraged to be out there without someone to offer guidance... for their own safety.
Obviously it is not for me to deny access... but most of us try to not toss information out too easily to whoever might find it.
In general trail routes and locations and such are held close to the vest up here. It is one thing to share with a small select group who come up from the '48 and travel the trails with us. But it is another to provide the information to anyone who may find it... either some of our locals who may be less than admirable or any enthusiastic but unprepared "adventurers" on a road trip north.
I may upset some here on this board by taking this attitude... But I submit that "things are different here"... and I'll stand by that
. Just ask some of the folks who have come up to run with us in the past.Or ask Bruce and Charla about our explorations last year... and that was in a fairly well known and used area too...
If you want to share the route info... just be very careful with who... and please do not post it up on a web page or any other approach that puts it out there for the world. Something like that would probably, almost certainly mean the end to any future Treks... the gains from the Treks come nowhere near the losses that such disemination could result in.
Mark...
Mark,
Speaking of trails, have you decided where you are taking us yet? How is the melt going this year? We where about three weeks behind "normal" run off.
I really like the idea of getting over to Paxon if possible?? How is the Denali highway? A Cruise down that and then back through Anchorage would be perfect for us!
I can't wait.
Speaking of trails, have you decided where you are taking us yet? How is the melt going this year? We where about three weeks behind "normal" run off.
I really like the idea of getting over to Paxon if possible?? How is the Denali highway? A Cruise down that and then back through Anchorage would be perfect for us!
I can't wait.
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
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It is as decided as it can be
We will go it at the Tok. We will cross Via Gillette Pass to the Slana. up to the headwaters of the Slana and via an unnamed pass to the head of the east fork of the Chistochina.. Then Via Chisna Pass to the middle fork. will will head up the west fork and see if conditionbs will allow us to reach and cross the Gakona.
we will head down the middle fork and se if we can make the connetion to a nore southerly crossing of the Gakona.
If either of these work out for he group... we will come out at Paxon.
Another option will be an extraction via the Chistochina river route. Our fall back will be to return to the Slana and follow it out to Mentasta.
It is all dependent on the make up and capabilities of the group.. what sort of ground we cover/time we make, what sort of things we have to distract us (breakage... exploring on foot...), weather, and any real time changes to th trails/rivers.
The only way to pin it down solidly to to that the most conservative and least adventuresome options right at the start
Mark...
We will go it at the Tok. We will cross Via Gillette Pass to the Slana. up to the headwaters of the Slana and via an unnamed pass to the head of the east fork of the Chistochina.. Then Via Chisna Pass to the middle fork. will will head up the west fork and see if conditionbs will allow us to reach and cross the Gakona.
we will head down the middle fork and se if we can make the connetion to a nore southerly crossing of the Gakona.
If either of these work out for he group... we will come out at Paxon.
Another option will be an extraction via the Chistochina river route. Our fall back will be to return to the Slana and follow it out to Mentasta.
It is all dependent on the make up and capabilities of the group.. what sort of ground we cover/time we make, what sort of things we have to distract us (breakage... exploring on foot...), weather, and any real time changes to th trails/rivers.
The only way to pin it down solidly to to that the most conservative and least adventuresome options right at the start
Mark...
11 more days and counting. I am thinking about skipping the the Fort Nelson and Fort St, John route and opting for the Cassiar Highway. Any thoughts? How much longer should I count on going that way? FYI on the way back we will be traveling from Haines to Price Rupert via ferry..
Hmm...RandMcNally says Prince George to Watson Lake via Hwy 97 (Ft. St. John) is 822 miles and 16hrs. 40min. driving time.
Prince George to Watson Lake via Hwy 37 (Cassiar Hwy.) is 765 miles and 16hrs. 35 mins. driving time.
10+ yrs. ago, the Cassiar used to be all gravel, rocky, a little rutted, really dusty when dry, a bit muddy when wet with a few wooden one lane bridges so RVs stayed off it and you had less slow traffic. In 1998 in FJ40s, we averaged 50MPH on the Cassiar - it was a bit slower than Hwy 97. Today the Cassiar is much improved and it would probably be a wash as far as driving time is concerned.
The Cassiar is beautiful for it's endless low mountains of green trees and quiet solitude but the I think Hwy 97 offers a wider variety of terrian to enjoy.
On the way home, if you're getting off the ferry at Prince Rupert, you'll already be driving Hwy 16, the East/West portion of the Cassiar route so I'd say take Hwy 97 on the way North.
Why not take the ferry all the way to Bellingham, WA on the way home?
Prince George to Watson Lake via Hwy 37 (Cassiar Hwy.) is 765 miles and 16hrs. 35 mins. driving time.
10+ yrs. ago, the Cassiar used to be all gravel, rocky, a little rutted, really dusty when dry, a bit muddy when wet with a few wooden one lane bridges so RVs stayed off it and you had less slow traffic. In 1998 in FJ40s, we averaged 50MPH on the Cassiar - it was a bit slower than Hwy 97. Today the Cassiar is much improved and it would probably be a wash as far as driving time is concerned.
The Cassiar is beautiful for it's endless low mountains of green trees and quiet solitude but the I think Hwy 97 offers a wider variety of terrian to enjoy.
On the way home, if you're getting off the ferry at Prince Rupert, you'll already be driving Hwy 16, the East/West portion of the Cassiar route so I'd say take Hwy 97 on the way North.
Why not take the ferry all the way to Bellingham, WA on the way home?
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Cassiar is probably still mostly gravel and take lots of fuel as there are not very many fuel stops that I can remember. I think it is probably a better way, but I drove it in the middle of winter back in 94 I think, more scenic until you get on the highway to Prince George.
Hey Coldtaco,
Do you think your friend with the Super Cub would be up for a flight to Tok if we need emergency parts this year?
Do you think your friend with the Super Cub would be up for a flight to Tok if we need emergency parts this year?
