Air Lift air spring install - advice needed

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I'm looking advice from others who have successfully installed Airlift bags in their coils. I have been running Airlifts for years in a 4Runner for towing and they have worked great. When I started towing with my LC it was sagging something fierce in the back with my small trailer, large 6-bike hitch rack on a hitch splitter, camping gear, family, etc. This is with medium Ironman springs. I finally got around to installing some Airlifts recently ahead of more camping trips this summer. I followed the instructions to the T, got everything put back together, pumped up to ~20 PSI and literally drove one time around the block. By the time I got back the pneumatic line had been cut right below the metal nipple on one airbag (see pictures). I can only assume it was from the metal nipple hitting the spring seat plate. This was with drilling out the center hole in the plate per the instructions.

The instructions for the 4Runner install were the same (nipple-down). However, when I looked at those years ago I figured there was no way the hose would not get damaged exactly as it did on the LC, so instead of following the instructions I installed the bags with the nipple and air hose pointed up. Additionally, the 4Runner kit came with the plastic donut spacer. I ended up putting the spacer on TOP of the bag to protect around the nipple. I've put maybe 80k miles since then and towed multiple multi-state road trips without a single leak. I thought about doing the same with the LC, but then I decided I was being stupid, surely the instructions would not lead me astray, right? And other people are running them seemingly without issue. I figured I must be overthinking it, so instead of going with what worked, I followed the instructions. BTW I asked around on the forum here before I bought the kit and couldn't find a better kit for the lifted Ironman springs besides what is recommended for the stock springs. The limited feedback I got was that the stock kit was working for others with lifted springs, so I went with the same. That kit does not come with the donut spacer.

Has anyone else had issues like this? If not, what the heck am I doing wrong? Unfortunately I don't have a lot of time to tinker with this right now so I would like to not have to take the springs out and reinstall only to have the same thing happen again. I circled the damage to the hose in one picture since it's a bit hard to see. In the other you can see the hole in the spring seat plate does not line up well with the nipple on the bag. And before someone asks, the spring is seated properly.

I don't see how it's possible to not have the hose damaged when one rear tire gets stuffed, even with no pressure in the bag. I'm considering buying the spacer pucks and putting in the bottom to see if it protects the line, but for one that will just yield even less room for compression of the spring. It also feels like overkill if no one else has needed to do that. An alternative could be to grind out more space in the seat plate, but I expect that will be a pain. And if no one else has needed that either, I must be missing something.

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I put those in on our 2001 way back in 2013 or 2014. I don’t remember if I ever cut the hose or not but did suffer with issues with the hose not holding air properly until I drilled the hole out (and filed the edges smoother) way bigger than the instructions say. I think I ended up using the largest step drill size and the hole is probably closer to 2”. It took me a couple of seasons of phaffing around to get it to where it hasn’t been an issue.
 
Has anyone else suffered from very noisy springs with airbags?
 
You need to enlarge the holes considerably and while doing so move the hole so the airbag nipple is more centered. I think I made them about 1" or so.
And yes, I have experianced noise so loud I thought my frame was damaged. Turned out to be caused by dust on the air bags. Blasting them with a garden hose cured it.
 
Just installed my airlift bags a couple weeks ago, no squeaks here. Definitely would recommend widening the air line hole (I think airlift instructs this too!) if you’re running into clearance issues. Seems your line or airbag nipple is pushing against the hole under normal operation.
 
I haven’t had any issues with noisy springs (but don’t drive dusty roads much). Definitely the hole needs to be off centre, I think that’s why I drilled my hole so big.
 
Yes you need to widen and center the hole. Also put some slack in the line underneath so it can move freely. Also 20psi is too much IMO. I run mine at 5psi for moderate loads and 10 psi at max loads. 20 psi is the absolute maximum you would want to run.

Also I watched my budding install them in his truck and he smeared some red n tacky grease all over the airbag before installing it so it would slide nicely inside the spring. I installed mine dry 3 or 4 years ago, no issues.
 
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I run 5-8 just driving around, then 20psig when I hook up the trailer (3800 lb hybrid trailer), it’s a little bouncy so I could probably get away with less but don’t have good tongue weights to tie back to pressures.
 
Thanks for all the feedback, it makes sense the hole needs to be enlarged quite a lot for it to clear the hose. @Mech30, you're right, the instruction does call for enlarging the hole, but only to 3/4". The picture I posted above includes that, so it's clear 3/4" isn't enough. But really it's the centering as people have pointed out, 3/4" would probably be fine if the existing hole in the plate is centered, but it's clearly not.

It's not so easy to re-center without a drill press. The existing hole from the factory is close enough to centered that the point of the drill bit for a truly centered hole would want to drop into the existing hole when drilling. I can see why @Marshmallow went with such a large hole. I don't have a step bit that big, I may try drilling next to the other hole and joining them into an oval. I'll post and update when I can get things disassembled again.
 
Yes you need to widen and center the hole. Also put some slack in the line underneath so it can move freely. Also 20psi is too much IMO. I run mine at 5psi for moderate loads and 10 psi at max loads. 20 psi is the absolute maximum you would want to run.

Also I watched my budding install them in his truck and he smeared some red n tacky grease all over the airbag before installing it so it would slide nicely inside the spring. I installed mine dry 3 or 4 years ago, no issues.
Good to know. I only did 20 because I think the instructions suggested 20 or 25 for a shakedown test drive. I usually use about 20 psi in the 4Runner and it doesn't droop a bit when towing (I believe 30 psi is the max according to the instructions), though I admit I never tried airing down to find the minimum. When I forget to let the air out after disconnecting the trailer it feels like the springs are concrete. When I get things reinstalled on the LC and hooked up to the trailer I'll start low based on your experience.
 
Thanks for all the feedback, it makes sense the hole needs to be enlarged quite a lot for it to clear the hose. @Mech30, you're right, the instruction does call for enlarging the hole, but only to 3/4". The picture I posted above includes that, so it's clear 3/4" isn't enough. But really it's the centering as people have pointed out, 3/4" would probably be fine if the existing hole in the plate is centered, but it's clearly not.

It's not so easy to re-center without a drill press. The existing hole from the factory is close enough to centered that the point of the drill bit for a truly centered hole would want to drop into the existing hole when drilling. I can see why @Marshmallow went with such a large hole. I don't have a step bit that big, I may try drilling next to the other hole and joining them into an oval. I'll post and update when I can get things disassembled again.
Step bits are cheap at harbour freight! I used one because it was the only thing I could fit in the space with my big drill.
 
I haven’t had any issues with noisy springs (but don’t drive dusty roads much). Definitely the hole needs to be off centre, I think that’s why I drilled my hole so big.

Right on @Marshmallow. This is the most important info with regard to installing the air bags. The hole must not only be enlarged but also shifted to the rear as well as more towards offset from the center line. I don't recall if more towards 5 o'clock or 7 o'clock but the left and right side will be different.

Since the lower perch sits off center from the upper and the springs tend to have a bit of a "bow" when loaded it causes the bags to sit a bit off from vertical and pushes the bottom of the bag back and to the side.

I've hit mine twice with a router bit and I'm still rubbing on the fitting when I cycle the AHC. The bags do their job with varying loads but I'm not stoked about using them. I'd rather up rate my springs and possibly throw the bags back in only when absolutely needed. Could always leave the lines attached since it's a quick install with the bags.
 
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Agree with making the hole bigger. I installed mine a couple months ago and was running into similar issues. When the truck was jacked up, I tried to make sure the airbag was as low as possible prior to lowering the truck so the valve is already in the hole below. That seemed to help and so far I've been ok. Still worry it'll tear though. I also run about 20psi when towing my car trailer and usually 5psi otherwise to keep it inflated in the springs.

I did have it blow a line off while running some dirt trails with some dips. May have been the air rushed to one side as MongooseGA suggested. I plan to separate the lines eventually but have not done so yet.
 
Agree with making the hole bigger. I installed mine a couple months ago and was running into similar issues. When the truck was jacked up, I tried to make sure the airbag was as low as possible prior to lowering the truck so the valve is already in the hole below. That seemed to help and so far I've been ok. Still worry it'll tear though. I also run about 20psi when towing my car trailer and usually 5psi otherwise to keep it inflated in the springs.

I did have it blow a line off while running some dirt trails with some dips. May have been the air rushed to one side as MongooseGA suggested. I plan to separate the lines eventually but have not done so yet.
It's a huge safety thing. Now, it may be that the amount of air being pushed from one side to the other isn't enough to throw the truck over, but IMO, it's an easy way to just alleviate that potential risk altogether. Only downside is having to inflate 2 nipples. Or, you could make a splitter on a gauge and still fill both equally, simultaneously.
 
I kept my bags independent as well. Made a little bracket and riveted it into the body panel. Super easy to reach under and fill up bags!
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Do you one better, I put mine on the rear facing surface of my back bumper. High enough they've never been touched coming off a ledge, and I don't need to get under the truck to adjust them.

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Do you one better, I put mine on the rear facing surface of my back bumper. High enough they've never been touched coming off a ledge, and I don't need to get under the truck to adjust them.

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Haha careful where you park that thing. You may find someone lookin under your rear skirt hoping to check out your spring puppies!
 
Did mine yesterday, just the standard kit for 80/100 series. I used a unibit and made the holes in the lower perch about 1.25". So far they have been ok with about 8psi around town. I would like to get some of the red spacers that come in some of the other kits because I'm lifted with heavy springs and would like the bags to have a little more height. I can post pictures of my install later.
 

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