Air-Down on Snow?

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I dropped my tire pressure significantly the other day. I realized once I got on the highway, that I probably should have aired-up.

Who else is doing this to enhance control on icy conditions?

Is there an air pump available that collects condensate before it gets pumped into steel wheels?
 
The only time I’ve ever had to air down was for soft sand. I probably could have made it over the dune without messing with it but didn’t want to take chances. There were literally two trucks stuck right there at the beach access. One person was trying to dig himself out. The other was in denial spinning his tires as the truck gradually sunk deeper in the sand.

The local wrecker was making a killing from all the tourists who didn’t know any better.
 
I miss driving in snow. But, even if it snows here (rarely does) I don't think the FJ40 is leaving the garage without a top on, and that's too much work. (but maybe, if conditions are right, I'll just bundle up!!!)

I don't think I ever aired down for snow. Maybe really deep, collected up snow with layers of crust that were really tough to crush through but not strong enough to float on, airing down might help with that... But usually, you want to dig though the snow. It takes a pretty strong layer of ice to hold up several thousand pounds and those usually don't develop within a single winter.

Snow machines float over the snow, but also pack it underneath them leaving something of a trail behind them. But those are generally ~500 pounds sitting on more surface area than you'll ever have with a land cruiser. But once they run over it a couple (dozen) times, yeehaa, it might hold up an FJ40 (ya, air down for sure).

So, it's possible in the right kinda snow, it could help. But usually, you've gotta dig through it. And if there is ice underneath, try and get those little ridges of your tires to grab it (or cling to the idea that snow packed up in your tire can stick to it). More contact area would mean more ridges on that ice, which I assume could help.

But usually, when I needed more traction on ice, it was either so hopelessly slippery that airing down didn't seem like it would have been worth trying, or I was going faster than I would've wanted to be on air down tires...
 
The only time I’ve ever had to air down was for soft sand. I probably could have made it over the dune without messing with it but didn’t want to take chances. There were literally two trucks stuck right there at the beach access. One person was trying to dig himself out. The other was in denial spinning his tires as the truck gradually sunk deeper in the sand.

The local wrecker was making a killing from all the tourists who didn’t know any better.
Was it Assateague? I see you are in Maryland. I loved that place but it ended up giving my Iron Pig terminal cancer.

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Snow sticks to snow better than to rubber. That is why snow tires have closed lugs. If you air down, are you exposing more lugs to the snow? If you have mud tires, are they throwing the snow out of the lugs? It sounds like a job for Mythbusters. I like the idea of chains. Anything that makes my Cruiser more gnarly.
 
I lived in the snow for 37 years and never recall airing down. It was usually too dang cold out to mess with that, got around fine. I don't think it would help on ice, need studded tires for that.
 
I don't air down at all in the snow, knowing that I'm behind the wheel of a rig with no ABS I drive accordingly. Deep snow is awesome to drive in, it's the hard packed snow and ice that I worry about.

I am currently running the Maxxis Razrs, M/Ts, definitely going to switch to a snow rated tire next time.

Chains are on the list of items I should probably keep in my rig most of the year.
 
Outer Banks of NC... on Hatteras Island & Ocracoke. I used to lifeguard for the National Park Service there during my college years.

I‘ve spent some time in Assateague too but haven’t driven on the beach much there.

I picked up a 79 Toyota pickup for a couple hundred bucks and started driving that to the beach instead of my FJ40. The salty air and sand will definitely eat a truck away.

Was it Assateague? I see you are in Maryland. I loved that place but it ended up giving my Iron Pig terminal cancer.

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I remember seeing an episode of Extreme Machines on the History Channel a number of years ago and they were featuring the Arctic Trucks Toyota Landcruiser FJ80. They said they would air down to 8psi I believe. I even just looked it up on their website and it says they air down to even lower than that. I believe it would help with traction because your contact patch is greater. Probably depends on the conditions though.
 
I remember seeing an episode of Extreme Machines on the History Channel a number of years ago and they were featuring the Arctic Trucks Toyota Landcruiser FJ80. They said they would air down to 8psi I believe. I even just looked it up on their website and it says they air down to even lower than that. I believe it would help with traction because your contact patch is greater. Probably depends on the conditions though.

I think you'll find a pretty big difference between a journey across arctic (or antarctic) glaciers and ice pack vs. a trip to the store on a snowy road.

First thing to consider is if there is a road (or frozen ground) under the snow. You have to first know if there is something to drive on if your tire dig through the snow, or if you need to float on top of it. (if you're someplace where snow is seasonal, there's little chance that much of it will have ever frozen solid enough for any land cruiser to float on it).
 
I guess it depends. I’ve been in Alaska the last forty years. I’ve driven all the connected highways and then some, in all conditions and seasons, including multiple winter forays for work, up the Dalton Highway to Proudhoe Bay and back. Never felt the urge to do elective off-roading in the snow but have lots of road miles and perhaps an unintentional off-road event or two. I can say that I don‘t remember ever being unable to get where I wanted to go due to winter driving conditions, although sometimes it might not have been the safest. I’ve owned one set of studded tires and they made a little difference on the ice In the Forerunner. Virtually all of my road tires have been well siped all-season tires . Well, except for a CJ5 I bought cheap, to fix and sell that had some brand new, wide, aggressive tread tires. That was the absolute worst vehicle and tire combo for arctic driving. I drove it home a mile or so from the seller’s house. It was mid winter, about -40 and the roads were clear and dry, except for the usual ice glaze. Traction on ice improves a lot as it gets that cold. Made no diff for that thing. I turned a corner near the house at about 5 mph and did a slow motion 360 in its own shadow. A while later, I spent about four hours out in the middle of nowhere, mid winter about -30, ptarmigan hunting and that stupid p.o.s. would not move out of its own shadow on an otherwise flat, clear dirt road with exception of a little ice. Put it in gear and just sat there spinning tires at idle. I digress. The studies I’ve seen, show that studs give about a 15% improvement in ice traction compared to good all season or snow tires. I might be wrong, but in my mind, and this is for snowy/icy roads, a narrower tire concentrates the weight better between tread and ice/road. In snow, that gives a better chance of finding the hard stuff below the fluff. When I lived up a steep road and had to get in and out in heavy snows, I put chains on the old pickup. Hard to beat that for ice or snow but you really have to rig them right and stay on top of them because bad stuff can happen if they decide to break or slip off. Things like brake lines, fenders... The conditions are always changing up here. I live in southeast Alaska now, maritime climate. Rain one minute, snow or ice storm the next, black ice is very common. I think Kerplunk summed it up pretty well.
 

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