air cleaner gaskets?

[CardinalFJ60]

I'm snorkeling the 60 and just got the reworked air cleaner assembly back from powder coat. the gaskets that go on top and bottom of the cleaner to seal in the element are NLA. Any suggestions on what to use?

#5 in the SOR diagram. http://www.sor.com/cat012.sor

 

[gregnash]

Which diagram are you talking about for which truck again? The one that is on the INSIDE of the air cleaner on the bottom of the cleaner housing? Have you checked with @beno or SamStewart to be sure they are NLA?

 

[klinetime574]

Maybe you could just use some closed cell foam weatherstrip? Wouldn't allow things to get past, and would seal the element fairly well. I don't think it needs to be an airtight seal does it? Just prevents things from getting around the filter.

 

[FJ40Jim]

What Kline said. Self-adhesive closed cell foam weatherstripping, with little pie slice cuts taken out to go around the curve at each end of the oval.

And yes, they are NLA for some years now. On the plus side, the molded gasket that goes into the neck of the aircleaner to seal against carb is still available, as are the rubber gasketed wingnuts.

 

[CardinalFJ60]

What Kline said. Self-adhesive closed cell foam weatherstripping, with little pie slice cuts taken out to go around the curve at each end of the oval.

And yes, they are NLA for some years now. On the plus side, the molded gasket that goes into the neck of the aircleaner to seal against carb is still available, as are the rubber gasketed wingnuts.

Thanks for the suggestion, Jim. I'm going to grab the available parts! as for an update....I ended up sourcing good, used inner air cleaner gaskets from Classic Cruisers here in CO. BTW...Glenn at Classic Cruisers is excellent to work with!! If things go as planned. I'll do a snorkel install writeup.

thanks everyone!

 

[Output Shaft]

This stuff might work
for the air cleaner outer lid gasket on a FJ60 2F:
Trim-Lok X1333BT

It can be purchased by the foot at that site above.
I have not tried it, but I just ordered 5 ft of it and will see if it is a go.... Will post results /impressions/pics here ...and whether or not it is a workable solution... for anyone else aiming to PC their AC housing.

 

[Output Shaft]

So...
8 days after my previous post, I just got a small sample of the stuff from Trim-Lok... Am waiting for my order of 5ft of the stuff from the other vendor... It got "lost" in the mail.

The Trim-Lok X1333BT is the same width as the OEM gasket.

1. The integrated adhesive is very sticky and protected by peel off tape. If ALL of the old adhesive is removed from the cover from the prior gasket, it looks like it will stick to the metal cover very nicely.
2. The gasket is hollow D shaped foam (obviously) whereas the OEM gasket was solid foam.
3. The OEM gasket looks like it had a overhanging lip that sank down into the pinched metal trough at the edge of the cover... but that appearance may be due to decades of compression. I never saw a new OEM gasket to compare.
   
4. The Trim-Lok will definitely make the bend radius around the cover without buckling or bunching up, creating a nice smooth gasket all the way around the cover with only one break at the cut.
   
5. The Trim-Lok (which is hollow) may not be quite as firm of a compression fit as the new OEM gasket was, but it appears that it will seal better than an old crushed OEM gasket.
6. Since the old OEM air cleaner gasket is NLA. This gasket (to me) appears to be a very suitable replacement.

I have not installed it as a full gasket yet. But I will, after I get around to powder coating the air cleaner assembly in the future.

For me...It's a go.

 

[Output Shaft]

And here is the final install of the Trim-Lok X1333BT gasket on a newly powder coated FJ60 2F air cleaner cover.

1. It works great (so far.. time will only tell how well it holds up to heat+time)
   
2. No kinking around the radius, no corner notching required
   
3. Super easy to install in one continuous piece
4. No glue required
   
5. Cheap
   
6. Strong integrated tape backed adhesive
   
7. Can feel it compress all the way around when the top is mounted to the bottom air cleaner section

the cut joint

 

[John McVicker]

Excellent Output Shaft. Good pics and thanks for the follow up.

John

 

[DickM]

Sure looks like a winner to me.
Thanks for the info!

 

[CardinalFJ60]

great info and explanation. thanks!

 

[FJ40Jim]

Looks great x32857653.

What about the filter-to-housing gaskets that are NLA? Are they being re-installed after PC, or fabbing something new?

 

[Output Shaft]

^^What about the filter-to-housing gaskets that are NLA?

Granted, I completely ignored Cardinal's question about the filter gaskets, and focused on the lid gasket…which he didn't mention. I went off topic… or kind of side topic, since he had mentioned powder coating the AC.

My filter gaskets were removed easily and I reused them again with new adhesive. They are strong, since they are solid rubber and I would imagine that most people will not damage them when they remove them.

But perhaps all of our filter gaskets may not be sealing as well as they used to, it is difficult to know for sure…and if they aren't, that would be bad news.

Maybe I'll try to find a replacement for those too… If I do, I'll re-post here.
(Damit Jim, I thought I was done with the AC )

 

[FJ40Jim]

The problem I'm seeing w/ the filter gaskets is they are missing, especially the top one. If they are there, they are working OK.

 

[SFCDiablo]

^^What about the filter-to-housing gaskets that are NLA?

Granted, I completely ignored Cardinal's question about the filter gaskets, and focused on the lid gasket…which he didn't mention. I went off topic… or kind of side topic, since he had mentioned powder coating the AC.

My filter gaskets were removed easily and I reused them again with new adhesive. They are strong, since they are solid rubber and I would imagine that most people will not damage them when they remove them.

But perhaps all of our filter gaskets may not be sealing as well as they used to, it is difficult to know for sure…and if they aren't, that would be bad news.

Maybe I'll try to find a replacement for those too… If I do, I'll re-post here.
(Damit Jim, I thought I was done with the AC )

Well... looks like the vendor you sourced the Trim-Lok X13333BT is now making it a 25ft minimum order. I'm going to try to see if it is available elsewhere. On another topic (I sure hope you are still on this site), what adhesive did you use on the filter gaskets (the rubber seals that sit atop and below the air filter) on your air cleaner? There seems to be a host of offerings at the local parts store from Permatex, Goop, etc., but I'm concerned with chemical resistance (fuel, oil, K&N Fitercharger oil), resistance to temperature, and volatility/flammability. Some of the adhesives use toluene as an active ingredient and I'm a little concerned that even after it has dried, it could become like the Toyota version of the "Human Torch".

Thanks for any info.

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

How interesting. I’m quite sure I do not have this gasket inside my cover. Going out to look ASAP and see what I can find at my local Ace since I know they have a very similar weather stripping as noted above. Thanks mud! Edited: I do but it’s pressed tight and is now a solid state. It has a clear impression of the lower housing ring all the way around. I think I’ll let well enough alone.

 

[TexasBlue]

I bought some good used filter gaskets at Cruiser parts. Contact cement and some time for contact cement to dry and all was good.

I'm sure there is some type of gasket material that could be used instead of recycled old stuff.

I'll try n post what brand of adhesive I used.

 

[OSS]

what adhesive did you use on the filter gaskets (the rubber seals that sit atop and below the air filter) on your air cleaner?

Just contact cement you can find anywhere. The rubber gasket is just sitting there here compressed. The glue just keeps it in position. No biggie. If it comes loose 10 years from now, glue it back on again. Most contact cement has nasty toluene. Ventilate the area well when using it.

 

[SFCDiablo]

Just contact cement you can find anywhere. The rubber gasket is just sitting there here compressed. The glue just keeps it in position. No biggie. If it comes loose 10 years from now, glue it back on again. Most contact cement has nasty toluene. Ventilate the area well when using it.[/QUOTE]


Okay... so whatever is on sale, work outdoors or with a strong fan, don't inhale, and 24 hour cure time.

Check.

 

[Beehanger]

So...
8 days after my previous post, I just got a small sample of the stuff from Trim-Lok... Am waiting for my order of 5ft of the stuff from the other vendor... It got "lost" in the mail.

The Trim-Lok X1333BT is the same width as the OEM gasket.

1. The integrated adhesive is very sticky and protected by peel off tape. If ALL of the old adhesive is removed from the cover from the prior gasket, it looks like it will stick to the metal cover very nicely.
2. The gasket is hollow D shaped foam (obviously) whereas the OEM gasket was solid foam.
3. The OEM gasket looks like it had a overhanging lip that sank down into the pinched metal trough at the edge of the cover... but that appearance may be due to decades of compression. I never saw a new OEM gasket to compare.
4. The Trim-Lok will definitely make the bend radius around the cover without buckling or bunching up, creating a nice smooth gasket all the way around the cover with only one break at the cut.
5. The Trim-Lok (which is hollow) may not be quite as firm of a compression fit as the new OEM gasket was, but it appears that it will seal better than an old crushed OEM gasket.
6. Since the old OEM air cleaner gasket is NLA. This gasket (to me) appears to be a very suitable replacement.

I have not installed it as a full gasket yet. But I will, after I get around to powder coating the air cleaner assembly in the future.

For me...It's a go.

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anyone have some air cleaner gaskets laying around (as in extra material?) I dont want to buy 25 feet on amazona and its the only option.... will pay for shipping !!!


Shot in the dark,

Beehanger