I'm guessing roadside service for you means:
1) fix it yourself, or
2) Wait, keep warm, and consider yourself lucky if someone comes by in less than 1 day.
Absolute Best Winter Tire For The 80
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I'm guessing roadside service for you means:
1) fix it yourself, or
2) Wait, keep warm, and consider yourself lucky if someone comes by in less than 1 day.
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width
No one really has talked about width. in my old experience (subaru in vermont winter ski bum days) i had nokia hakapolitias that ruled the packed snow
they worked well on one end cause they were tall and skinny for that vehicle
this type 80 i now have with old all terrain rubber i bought it with did crappy in last winters colorado blizzard. they floated in a bad way and i kept getting the heavy snow wedged under frame...
now i have 285/70/16 silent armours ...
i was looking for feedback on use of chains on these big guys.. would i put just a pair of chains on the back tire and flick on the lockers in the deep stuff? or get chains for all 4 wheels?
what are you all finding regarding tire widths?
thanks
No one really has talked about width. in my old experience (subaru in vermont winter ski bum days) i had nokia hakapolitias that ruled the packed snow
they worked well on one end cause they were tall and skinny for that vehicle
this type 80 i now have with old all terrain rubber i bought it with did crappy in last winters colorado blizzard. they floated in a bad way and i kept getting the heavy snow wedged under frame...
now i have 285/70/16 silent armours ...
i was looking for feedback on use of chains on these big guys.. would i put just a pair of chains on the back tire and flick on the lockers in the deep stuff? or get chains for all 4 wheels?
what are you all finding regarding tire widths?
thanks
I believe the rule for tire width is as follows:
1) For ice, packed snow, and snow less than about 10-12" deep, like that you get on roads, narrower is better because it allow the tire to cut through to a hard surface and maximize it's footprint pressure.
2) For off roading in unpacked virgin snow, wider is better to help you float on top of the snow rather than sink up to the body.
1) For ice, packed snow, and snow less than about 10-12" deep, like that you get on roads, narrower is better because it allow the tire to cut through to a hard surface and maximize it's footprint pressure.
2) For off roading in unpacked virgin snow, wider is better to help you float on top of the snow rather than sink up to the body.
what about chains... only put a pair on the rear .... or put chain on all 4? for the blizzard days that i still need to get to point A and B...
thanks
thanks
If you are trying to deal with conditions like last winter, a lift is going to be in order. With 3.5" of lift and 35" tires it was all I could do to get out in the first one...but I live in Monument and we get hit harder than Denver.
As Cary said, chains on all four or you need to get a tire that can handle deep snow if you want to get out right after a blizzard with 20"-40+" of snow on the roads.
All of it will be tough without a lift. I'm enjoying this idea of our 3 ton rigs "floating" on snow. I'd count on that as long as I was counting on being stuck as soon as my rig was near frame deep and my road snow tires were packing snow to create "snow on snow" traction. Good for making large snowballs that will become snowmen, not so good for the really deep stuff.
Good point
That's not quite a narrow ice tread tire, now is it? Take that baby on some nice icy hardpack and get out of the way.
The point of this thread, IMO, is you either bias your tires to ice/hardpack and then try to get the best deep snow tire in that class (or carry chains and have enough wheel well clearance to run them at full stuff), or you bias to deep snow and try to get the best hardpack variable condition in that class. I am in the latter, trxus MT is the tire.
If you only really face one condition, you should buy a tire focused on that condition, but our thread author sees both including offroad. Which is why I say "keep the Revos and carry chains".
I don't run AT's and carry chains because I think it is incredibly dangerous to get out of your vehicle in a sudden storm in the High Country to slap on chains exposed to 18 wheelers on a 7%+ grade in whiteout conditions. I don't run winter tires because they aren't handling 3' and drifts up to the hood.
These are rare occasions, but then if I wasn't preparing for the 1/10th of one percent events, which do happen where I live at times with an amazing and unforecasted fury, then I don't need an 80 either
Chain the front for steering control, chain the rear for descending steep hills or chain-up all the way around.
X4 on the TrXus MTs! (one for each corner) I got my 80 the night before the first big storm in Denver last Dec. During the second storm I had to be to work by 3:00 am to plow. Got to the exit at C-470 and University, and ended up pulling 3 plow-trucks and a tow-truck out of the snow on the ramp. Drove off the side of the pavement , snow was up to the bottom of my DS window, and still made it through. Made for some impressed truck drivers, and a very prideful moment for me!
Got asked by two of the guys "What is that thing?!"
Got asked by two of the guys "What is that thing?!"
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Wow! I'm really getting a good bit curious about these Truxus MT's !!! Are they good on the ice?
super swampers.....................
It is not much of an issue.
I might mention that I live in Prescott Az, where we are on the edge of the freeze line. Snow falls at night, and thaws in daylight. Then it freezes the next night. This happens day after day until we have layers of snow and ice. Under every level of snow is sheer ice. The roads are no more than 8 feet wide. Most roads are on steep mountains and are no wider than a truck. They look like flat spots in a field of white!
Last winter I went up into these areas in a stock 80 with a 3" lift and on stock little tires with street tread. The tires were ten years old and dry-rotted. They were as hard as rocks. I never lost traction in the least. The truck had an unnatural connection with the surface. I drove on ice that was running with melt water over it. I got out of the truck, and I was not able to walk on the ice without falling. The LC never lost traction on even a single tire. I reversed more than 200 yards down a steep slope on those tires, in the snow and ice, on a road less than 8' wide, on sheer ice. There was a lake on the down-side, and a vertical climb on the other. I never slipped a bit. The traction of the LC was uncanny. It is like cheating. The surface could well be compared to a sheet of well greased glass. But the 80 treated it like it was dry pavement. I was impressed!
I now have 315 Nittos and I am really cheating on traction.
I might mention that I live in Prescott Az, where we are on the edge of the freeze line. Snow falls at night, and thaws in daylight. Then it freezes the next night. This happens day after day until we have layers of snow and ice. Under every level of snow is sheer ice. The roads are no more than 8 feet wide. Most roads are on steep mountains and are no wider than a truck. They look like flat spots in a field of white!
Last winter I went up into these areas in a stock 80 with a 3" lift and on stock little tires with street tread. The tires were ten years old and dry-rotted. They were as hard as rocks. I never lost traction in the least. The truck had an unnatural connection with the surface. I drove on ice that was running with melt water over it. I got out of the truck, and I was not able to walk on the ice without falling. The LC never lost traction on even a single tire. I reversed more than 200 yards down a steep slope on those tires, in the snow and ice, on a road less than 8' wide, on sheer ice. There was a lake on the down-side, and a vertical climb on the other. I never slipped a bit. The traction of the LC was uncanny. It is like cheating. The surface could well be compared to a sheet of well greased glass. But the 80 treated it like it was dry pavement. I was impressed!
I now have 315 Nittos and I am really cheating on traction.
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I have to get on the TrXus bandwagon with NAY and Badmutha. I run them skinny (255/85) and they were magnificent during this past winter from hell. They are super predictable in ALL winter conditions and they kick butt off road. Will they slide on ice? Sure - anything will with 6000 lbs of lateral force. What I liked is their ability to recover smoothly. No more helpless 360s wherein you ride it out and pray. I love these tires.
Dan
Dan
I googled for some reviews on the TrxUs MT's It seems people love em or hate em:
http://www.offroaders.com/reviewbox/showproduct.php?product=34&cpage=1&perpage=15#poststart
Several reports of scary bad road handling including several sidewall blowouts.
http://www.offroaders.com/reviewbox/showproduct.php?product=34&cpage=1&perpage=15#poststart
Several reports of scary bad road handling including several sidewall blowouts.
