97 LX Power Steering Pump Sucking Noise

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Hey all, I recently purchased a 97 LX450 and it's got a pretty loud groan in the power steering pump. The PO claimed that he had the pump replaced before selling and i suspect that normal power steering fluid was added and not ATF (I plan on doing a full flush this weekend)

My question is on startup, after I make my very first turn with the steering wheel - as I return the wheel to dead center I hear a pretty distinct sucking noise (which I'm assuming is the power steering pump) As If it's sucking air into the system or something. Is this a sound anyone else has gotten? Am I doomed to replace the pump? Thanks for your help!
 
Search for power steering bleed procedures. Is your power steering fluid frothy (bubbly, full of bubbles)? The hose dropping straight down from the reservoir is under suction from the pump during operation. The noise you hear is most likely caused by air in the system. If the pump was replaced, the high-pressure hose (the only other hose connected to the pump) uses 2 copper washers and often one of them doesn't make it to where it should be when the pump is replaced (especially when done just before a resale). Or they reused the existing washers when the pump was replaced (more likely) and this is not recommended either. If you see no obvious leaks, perform the bleed procedures in a liberal fashion and go from there. Could just be low on fluid.
 
You have a failed seal somewhere sucking in air, the pump will always get the blame as it's a common place to fail but get some attention on your steering gearbox and the reservoir too.

I'm beginning my 6th tour of the power steering system and have replaced and rebuilt everything but the paperclip cooler and the steering gearbox. I was ignorant of how many components the system had and just fixed the issues as they appeared but if I ever buy another 80, I'm doint the whole dang thing at once! Just when I thought I was finished and nothing leaked or groaned, the gearbox input seal (where the steering wheel shaft goes in) now has a leak, again introducing air, and leaking copious amounts of fluid and groaning like mad.

I came from a Chevy background where a single belt driven unit is both the pump and reservoir replacing that single unit replacement is very simple typically fixed all leaks and it was not a common issue. The 80 series trucks are a much more complex system of 7-8 separate components all working together, not much unlike a cooling system. There's a pump, a cooler, a gearbox, a reservoir and a handful of high and low pressure hoses and clamps which ALL need to be addressed at the same time unless you want a multi-tour journey as I have been enjoying for the past 5 years.

Dig into the whole thing and fix ALL the seals and hoses at once. Don't ignore that gearbox either, it's going to show as the weak link eventually, the entire system is the same age and 20+ years is about it's life span. If you are in a rust prone area, pay attention to the paperclip shaped cooler bolted to the frame under the fan.

There's nothing horrible in there, just a bunch of rubber hoses and seals but it does take patience and homework. Be prepared to take the battery tray, alternator and possibly distributor out if you want to make your life much easier. They are hard to work around. Don't overlook the reservoir, it will leak around the crimped metal lip, not just the screw on cap. Toyota just reduced pricing on the reservoir. Bite the bullet and replace it with the hoses and seals in everything and you be much happier later when nothing is leaking!

Good luck!
 
Did you check the fluid level in the reservoir? Could be just low.
 
Did you check the fluid level in the reservoir? Could be just low.
I did and it read right at the correct level for the temp - i'm leaning towards the idea that it's taking on air somewhere in the system. It also only makes the weird sucking noise once - Right after startup. It just groans from there on out till the system heats up, then it quiets down.
 
Update: Flushed the old fluid out for ATF this weekend. It completely illuminated the groaning noise when turning the wheel. Fells like a new truck and I couldn't be happier. The sucking noise is still there however. Still only ever happens once per drive too. The mystery continues!
 
Update: Flushed the old fluid out for ATF this weekend. It completely illuminated the groaning noise when turning the wheel. Fells like a new truck and I couldn't be happier. The sucking noise is still there however. Still only ever happens once per drive too. The mystery continues!
Did you ever resolve this?
 

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