87 with Superlift, compatibility question! (3 Viewers)

[HANCHO]

I bought an 87 Pickup and it came with the 4-5” Superlift. I have 35” tires on it.

The steering has too much play and needs to be replaced. I’m trying to figure out which parts are compatible with the lift.

I need ball joints, pitman arm, stabilizer arm, inner and outer tie rods, etc.

Does anyone know if stock parts are compatible or do I need something else?

Thanks!

 

[HANCHO]

moog-packagedeal133 | Front End Steering Rebuild Kit | 86-89 Toyota 4Runner

Complete front end steering rebuild package kit for the 1986-1989 Toyota 4Runner. Includes all steering linkage and ball joints needed. All included parts are made by MOOG and backed by a 3 year to limited lifetime warranty. In stock and ready to ship! moog-packagedeal133

www.moog-suspension-parts.com

I was looking at this kit, but don’t know if it will work.

 

[gnob]

it uses stock parts.

 

[dohcdelsol93]

I've had good luck on my 87 4 runner daily driver with 2 inch ball joints spacer lift and 285/70/17 tires on all moog components for the past 2 years and counting. Still nice and tight going down the highway at 70 on mud terrains. Approximately 30,000 miles at this point. I'm half way to a timing belt change interval.

I did tie rod ends, pitman arm and ball joints. The upper and lower control arms are now urethane before I put her on the road.

My idler arm was upgraded with bronze bushings as those are the weak point. I installed a new steering box due to leakage. No issues turning those big ties at parking lot speeds with a VW Passat power steering pump.

But over the last few years moog quality has been hit or miss so now I'd probably go OEM for all those components minus the bronze bushing idler assembly.


I'd avoid the eBay/Amazon China rebuild kits at all cost unless you want to go back into your rig often. Tried them on my Passat and the boots were falling apart in a few months. No grease fittings so they were ruined. Absolute garbage. A co worker used them on his Chevy 1/2 ton and in 6 months was worn out.

 

[Devils Paw 80]

I bought an 87 Pickup and it came with the 4-5” Superlift. I have 35” tires on it.

The steering has too much play and needs to be replaced. I’m trying to figure out which parts are compatible with the lift.

I need ball joints, pitman arm, stabilizer arm, inner and outer tie rods, etc.

Does anyone know if stock parts are compatible or do I need something else?

Thanks!

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I don't think you have any options besides stock replacement parts, or exact replicas of them. Except for idler arm, there's this custom heavy duty part: Toyota 4Runner 1986-1995 CADDY IDLER ARM | TOTAL CHAOS FABRICATION - https://www.chaosfab.com/product/1986-1995-Toyota-4Runner-Caddy-Idler-Arm-95130

If all the parts mentioned are original then yes, probably need to be replaced. You'd think the person installing the lift would have done that, since the lift/big tires makes everything wear out faster. With my '90 4runner, everything has eventually needed replacement in my 22 years of ownership except for ball joints. Incredibly they're still OK.

 

[HANCHO]

Thanks brother!

 

[dohcdelsol93]

4 crawler is where I got my upgraded idler arm

Marlin also offers one now.

 

[pappy]

4 crawler is where I got my upgraded idler arm

Marlin also offers one now.

Ya, but 4Crawler was the innovator of the upgraded idler arm. Is Marlin selling his product, or have they copied it?

 

[dohcdelsol93]

Ya, but 4Crawler was the innovator of the upgraded idler arm. Is Marlin selling his product, or have they copied it?

It may have been the total chaos upgraded idler i saw on marlin. My 4 crawler is much cheaper than the TC and so far it's great but I don't wheel.

 

[TLar25]

I've had good luck on my 87 4 runner daily driver with 2 inch ball joints spacer lift and 285/70/17 tires on all moog components for the past 2 years and counting. Still nice and tight going down the highway at 70 on mud terrains. Approximately 30,000 miles at this point. I'm half way to a timing belt change interval.

I did tie rod ends, pitman arm and ball joints. The upper and lower control arms are now urethane before I put her on the road.

My idler arm was upgraded with bronze bushings as those are the weak point. I installed a new steering box due to leakage. No issues turning those big ties at parking lot speeds with a VW Passat power steering pump.

But over the last few years moog quality has been hit or miss so now I'd probably go OEM for all those components minus the bronze bushing idler assembly.


I'd avoid the eBay/Amazon China rebuild kits at all cost unless you want to go back into your rig often. Tried them on my Passat and the boots were falling apart in a few months. No grease fittings so they were ruined. Absolute garbage. A co worker used them on his Chevy 1/2 ton and in 6 months was worn out.

Got any pictures of your truck? Sounds like a sweet daily

 

[dohcdelsol93]

Got any pictures of your truck? Sounds like a sweet daily

Here's a link to the build thread with some pics.

Swapping a VW into a 1st gen IFS 4 runner

Donor is a 2004 or 2005 passat with 2.0 BHW turbo diesel. I have 3 of these. My daily driver is a 2005 that I converted to 5 speed. The other 2 have bad automatic transmissions which is why my DD is now 5 speed. I originally got these cars to use the motors in a diesel conversion boat...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[bkg]

it uses stock parts.

This.

Installed the Superlift kit on a 94 4runner back in the day. Great kit, IMHO, all things considered.