80 vs 100...SIZE MATTERS: (2 Viewers)

[ShottsUZJ100]

Not yet. Trying to find the tape measure so I can see how much I can lower my 100 and the ground effects won't hit.

128.123mm with the running boards. Watch out for the Slee rear bumper though. If you bang that they ding pretty easy.

 

[cruiserdan]

I'd hope I could get a 100 down to 185 inches.

Chop saw................

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Chop saw................

Maybe. If I snag one it'll be trailized. Hey, maybe I can put a 100 body on a Cherokee frame.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Wait, I meant visaversa.

 

[NorCalDoug]

Hee hee...Huevos? Tell that to the people who wheel with me. They'll laugh at ya!

The 80's going. I'd be stupid to bring the 100 when I bought and built that 80 just for a place like Moab. It's about fun factor. It's not about impressing anyone unless it's myself.
The 80 will be a killer Moab-mobile so it's going.

You can see my wheeling huevos in the 80.

meow...



You'd better wheel the snot out of the 80 with all this talk you're doin'

 

[robbie]

Man John you think toooooo darn much. Sorry you will not be bring the 100, i was looking forward to getting it throught the squeeze on hells revenge or maybe the exculator or hells gate. But the 80 will do just fine as it rubs the rock. Looking forwar to another year of beating the dead horse. by the way it matter more what the driver does or can do, than the length of the truck(scrape, bang , throttle = inches). later robbie

 

[alaskacruiser]

I tried to think of other titles though I wanted to get the maximum attention in order draw rational responses.

Shotts- you talk a lot about the 100's superiority, but when it comes to tough trails like those in Moab, you choose the 80. Actions speak louder than words. Realize that your talk about the advantages of the 100 goes down the tubes when you're not willing to show what it can do when the going *really* gets tough.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Shotts- you talk a lot about the 100's superiority, but when it comes to tough trails like those in Moab, you choose the 80. Actions speak louder than words. Realize that your talk about the advantages of the 100 goes down the tubes when you're not willing to show what it can do when the going *really* gets tough.

Ahhhh, when did I ever say a 100 is better at hard core wheeling than an 80?

 

[Waggoner5]

I always love this discussion. But what about a 60 series? My 62 is 207" long, 77" wide, and probably close to 6500#s. Its big, heavy and the departure angle is as bad as anything short of a '62 Caddy, but it out wheels my driving ability, and at Moab, the size is not a big issue. Let me rephrase that, the size is not an issue where I go. The 100s size is as wheelable in Moab as an 80. They are limited by tire size, and shear mass amoung other things. They, as mine would, do pretty much anything there, how much body damage I am willing to swallow is the key.
G

 

[sleeoffroad]

Ahhhh, when did I ever say a 100 is better at hard core wheeling than an 80?

Yes, but unless you are doing Pritchett, none of the trails that Cruise Moab runs is not hard core. I think I understand where you come from in terms of what vehicle to use for what application, it is just that our defintion of hard core if different.

 

[robbie]

I would agree with christo on this one John. All the trails at cruise moab with the exception of Pritchett could be run in a 100 series and with style. Pritchett is one where the IFS would create problems for you, not the length of the vechicle. O I forgot about the VW Syncro that went through Pritchett, so IFS or Clearence would not limit the 100 series from that trail either. Maybe a little body damage, maybe not depending on the spotter.
One year there was a stock 40 with two bald tires going up Pritchett, he made it to Can opener and had to trun back because his buddie in a built taco (with solid axle conversion) bent a drive shaft. The stock 40 was still ready to go forward. No traction control, no lockers, just throttle, guts. It was a thrill to see. All driver, no fear.
Maybe something to learn from? later robbie

 

[Riley]

…..Taking a peek at the 100 series guys to see what they stress over since they don’t have head gasket worries…….

I don’t know much, but what I do know is that selecting the vehicle that meets your requirements is not a simple 17 parameter question. It’s an “organic” thing; as in there are so many factors to base this on. As usual Christo is correct (even down to the virgin, porn star thing, I wonder how he knows this?).

Here in BC we have a lot of heavily wooded trails (at least where I go). My old 60 had enough pin strips to prove it. I’m not sure if the 100 would squeak through my favorite places but it would be very close. On the other hand, I could use a little more room that the 100 offers. The 80 is packed with enough camping and fishing gear for a family of 4.

Just of few of my personal factors are:

• the 100 just might not fit in some places I go unless I take a chain saw.
• I love having gutter rails on the 80 as it makes roof racks easier to source and I think better/stronger and more stable.
• I like the look of the 80 (but have yet to see Christo’s 100). Actually I like the 60 series better I think.
• In 5 or 10 years the 80s will be getting up in miles and thererfore reliability will suffer to some degree (like it or not).
• The HG is more failure prone on the 80
• Cost and willingness to wheel a newish truck
• I won’t even mention IFS vs Solid axle and also ease of maintance (I sort of understand my 80)
  

Point is that it’s not a something a tape measure can solve, it’s an organic decision. It depends on what your needs are. If it’s only rock crawling then I think a buggy is the ticket.


Now back to the 80 series threads for me….

 

[calamaridog]

Schotts,

You already have your 3rd wheeler. Wake up and enjoy the reality of the situation. It's called a Tacoma. Wish I could have kept mine when I bought my mall cruisin, "mini van" 100

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Schotts,

You already have your 3rd wheeler. Wake up and enjoy the reality of the situation. It's called a Tacoma. Wish I could have kept mine when I bought my mall cruisin, "mini van" 100

Thanks for all the encouragement guys. I'm sure the 100 would do fine. Amando did it and my buddies have told me I'm fine. Thing is, I have cut down 80 that'll allow me to be more aggressive on lines and such. Combine that with little worries and the fun factor is X10 for me. Since it's my first time there I want the fun factor. That's why we're going. I know I'll miss the 100 the whole week but when I'm on the trail I'll be rockkin' and glad I'm in that trail beast, the 80!

 

[Junk]

So the 80 still kicks shottsbutt and the 100 still sucks. What else would one need to know?

 

[NorCalDoug]

So the 80 still kicks shottsbutt and the 100 still sucks. What else would one need to know?

The mayor of buggerville pretty much nails it on the head.





:meow:

 

[nyk438]

Was waiting for Junk to chime in with his normal shut up your stupid attitude

Well put.


Bottom line both are cruisers and both can wheel..

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

So the 80 still kicks shottsbutt and the 100 still sucks. What else would one need to know?

The friggin' 80 is simply amazing on the crazy stuff. Amazing!

 

[Junk]

The friggin' 80 is simply amazing on the crazy stuff. Amazing!

Yet you still envy the heepers.

 

[ShottsUZJ100]

Yet you still envy the heepers.

Yezzz, their front flex. I'm not willing to spend the dough on the 80 to make those changes. Besides, it doesn't need it and it doesn't bust. (Like the xeexs)