80 Series Front Bumper Question (1 Viewer)

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I was recently at the Land Cruiser Heritage Museum in Salt Lake City and saw this bumper on an 80, I was wondering if anybody knew where it was from.
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The forward sloping post style was outlawed in Australia in the '90s or '00s because of the risk of pushing a struck pedestrian down and under the vehicle rather than forward.
 
The forward sloping post style was outlawed in Australia in the '90s or '00s because of the risk of pushing a struck pedestrian down and under the vehicle rather than forward.
At the proper speed you will always be able to push them down and under the vehicle.
 
Looks like a TJM from the period. They carried over that lower bar from the 60 which had it for shackle protection.
 
:meh:

I don't make the rules.
There was a lot of debate at the time, some politicians wanted to outlaw ALL bullbars.

Didn't matter that they save lives in animal strikes.
LOL
I don't think anyone is blaming you, just scratching our collective heads over it. Politicians have gotta do something to keep busy so they don't have to do anything useful I guess.

Still, I'm trying to picture the scenario where that bumper is going to push the hypothetical pedestrian under the vehicle, but they wouldn't be equally dead with a stock bumper. Call me crazy, but I'm thinking the best way to avoid killing pedestrians is... stick with me on this guys... not hitting pedestrians with your vehicle. It's a radical solution, I know, but I really think it could work.

It's not the sort of thing I'd run for my purposes, but I like it. Much better looking than the ARB in my opinion. Probably the one to have if you hit an elk at 70!
 
The forward sloping post style was outlawed in Australia in the '90s or '00s because of the risk of pushing a struck pedestrian down and under the vehicle rather than forward.

Makes sense. Since most states only allow 33" tires nowadays you'd hit your nose on the diff pumpkin if you end up gettin' pushed under the vehicle.
 
LOL
I don't think anyone is blaming you, just scratching our collective heads over it. Politicians have gotta do something to keep busy so they don't have to do anything useful I guess.

Still, I'm trying to picture the scenario where that bumper is going to push the hypothetical pedestrian under the vehicle, but they wouldn't be equally dead with a stock bumper. Call me crazy, but I'm thinking the best way to avoid killing pedestrians is... stick with me on this guys... not hitting pedestrians with your vehicle. It's a radical solution, I know, but I really think it could work.

It's not the sort of thing I'd run for my purposes, but I like it. Much better looking than the ARB in my opinion. Probably the one to have if you hit an elk at 70!

I think the intention is to not increase the possibility of harm or fatality.

You can't be deader than dead, but if there's a slim chance that someone is struck and bounces clear vs getting dragged under or pinned under a car because it's been modified, maybe it's a better prospect.

Australia's road toll is something like 1-2000 annually killed in motor vehicle accidents. That includes pedestrians, single vehicle accidents etc

There's been times when groups have lobbied to have SUVs banned from being within city limits after a series of toddlers being run over and killed in their own driveway by parents. Coz, you know, toddlers don't live outside of city limits . . .
 
You can't be deader than dead, but if there's a slim chance that someone is struck and bounces clear vs getting dragged under or pinned under a car because it's been modified, maybe it's a better prospect.
Honestly, it seems more of a question of open or closed casket.
 
I think the intention is to not increase the possibility of harm or fatality.

You can't be deader than dead, but if there's a slim chance that someone is struck and bounces clear vs getting dragged under or pinned under a car because it's been modified, maybe it's a better prospect.

Australia's road toll is something like 1-2000 annually killed in motor vehicle accidents. That includes pedestrians, single vehicle accidents etc

There's been times when groups have lobbied to have SUVs banned from being within city limits after a series of toddlers being run over and killed in their own driveway by parents. Coz, you know, toddlers don't live outside of city limits . . .
V-plows should be mandatory.
 

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