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if you have the fab skills to build a manifold than do that.. dont waste your money on a 400 dollar 13bt replica manifold.. at least if you build your own manifold you can place the turbo where you want and not be restricted to that dumb flange that you have to buy an adapter for..

i built my turbo manifold out of 3 schedule 40 tees and 2 90's.. the actual flange cad file was got here off of mud and i had a buddy cut me one out on his torchmate table.. i made that out of 1/2" steel..

total cost for all the parts were 65 for the flange and then about 14 bucks for the tees and bends... oh yeah, and the turbo flange was bought from vibrant performance because i was lazy and in a hurry but for the 24 bucks next time i will make it.. most machine shops will than machine the flange after welding for about 40-60 bucks to get it straight again if it warped at all while welding..
if you do weld your own manifold than do yourself a favour and tack it to a table or bolt it to an extra junk head like i did to prevent warpage.. when i was done i had a buddy mill the back side but he said he only took off about .005 which i thought was pretty good..

here is what i made for my truck.. i went with the gt2052 and am pushing about 18 pounds of boost, no intercooler and some heating issues on long climbs... my egt's are still in check at about 1150-1200 psi but the engine temp is the issue... ( a stock 3b will push egt's at 1200+ degrees easily all day long....) my rad is fawked though because the fan touch it and smeared half the fins over and there isnt much flow.. the new rad is going in this weekend along with my intercooler and i am turning the boost down to 15.. (18 psi is very fun though if you arent concerned although i know a few 3bs that have run over 22 pounds of boost for years with no problems as well..) all of my additions and tuning should fix everything up..

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Nice work on the head fj-rankenstein, I like how the end result looks ! and a Fab. job on the truck also.
Does anyone know the difference in performance between the Ct.26 and the GT2052 ?
My driving will be modest in the bj60, my hard core wheeling days are over for my 42, but I will put it through it's paces every now and then as it will be the most capable of my Cruiser's with possibly the same or different turbo. It will get a turbo as will the Fj45.
I will be collecting parts next week if all goes well and will post pics of the material before welding and after.
Cheers
A.Mac
 
Nice work on the head fj-rankenstein, I like how the end result looks ! and a Fab. job on the truck also.
Does anyone know the difference in performance between the Ct.26 and the GT2052 ?
My driving will be modest in the bj60, my hard core wheeling days are over for my 42, but I will put it through it's paces every now and then as it will be the most capable of my Cruiser's with possibly the same or different turbo. It will get a turbo as will the Fj45.
I will be collecting parts next week if all goes well and will post pics of the material before welding and after.
Cheers
A.Mac

I think there's a swap here where a guy removed the CT26 to install a GT2052.
 
ct26 out of a supra works fine,
...if you can find one from a mr2 even better.

its simple and effective, instead of optimal and unavailable.
depends on what you want to do.
 
ct26 out of a supra works fine,
...if you can find one from a mr2 even better.

its simple and effective, instead of optimal and unavailable.
depends on what you want to do.

A turbo from a 3 litre petrol engine is not in any way suitable for a 3.4 diesel with half the rpm.
Max boost at 3000rpm is not a good thing.
The MR2 version is better, but still nowhere near a good match. Parts supply is also a problem.

The GT2052 that was mapped out and selected by myself is straight from the Garrett aftermarket catalogue. It's available from every garrett turbo seller worldwide. Unavailable is not an accurate description.
 
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Try Kinetic Motorsports in Langley, BC. They rebuild Garrett turbos. Maybe someone in BC can chime in as well. Looks like they have changed their company name now, new link is:

http://www.ctsturbo.com/
 
I would try and ride in a few turboed 3bs to compare.
PM me if you want a ride in mine...
I have ridden in a couple, one with a garrett 2052, and one with a twin turbo set-up...
Anyhow, after riding in those cruisers I still like mine, they were nothing special as far as performance goes (basically I did not find they were any better than mine).
I am running the celica ct-26 with supra exhaust housing.
Also keep in mind, it depends what tires and gears people are running, everyone has a different set-up so it is a bit hard to compare sometimes...
Just my thoughts...
 
Some great advice from all
! I'm glad it's really down to tow turbo's as I will be doing 3 of my trucks eventually.
I am thinking the Gt2052 is on volvos and vw's so I will start there.
The ct26 I will hope to find at the same wrecker and if I can find both I will get them.
I will likely do this Monday as I'm not working that day. If I have no luck I will take Zking up on his link and look into that.
Dougal - I am leaning to the gt2052 as first choice.
Anybody have an idea of what tools I should bring to remove the turbo's ?

jzilla thanks for the offer I will be up in Ed. on April 28th if your around. albertamac@hotmail.com
Cheers !
All words appreciated !
 
Some great advice from all
! I'm glad it's really down to tow turbo's as I will be doing 3 of my trucks eventually.
I am thinking the Gt2052 is on volvos and vw's so I will start there.
The ct26 I will hope to find at the same wrecker and if I can find both I will get them.
I will likely do this Monday as I'm not working that day. If I have no luck I will take Zking up on his link and look into that.
Dougal - I am leaning to the gt2052 as first choice.
Anybody have an idea of what tools I should bring to remove the turbo's ?

jzilla thanks for the offer I will be up in Ed. on April 28th if your around. albertamac@hotmail.com
Cheers !
All words appreciated !

It's not down to the two turbos you are thinking of. The CT26 shouldn't be on anyones list.
I mean boost at 3000rpm is better than no boost at 3000rpm. But for the same cost and time you can do far better.

If you want new, get a GT2052. If you want used, get a T25. Those are the only two worth monkeying around with. There are of course other options (MHI etc), but you'll have to do the homework yourself.
If you buy a GT2052 used off a petrol, it could be very different.
 
Dougal I have to disagree...that it should not be on anyones list...
We are talking about different ct-26s here. Have you ever driven a turboed 3B with an Mr2 turbo and supra exhaust housing?
I never go anywhere near 3000 rpm, full boost is by about 2000rpm.
Not saying he should get the MR2 ct-26 at all...just saying my experience.

Heck my next cruiser I will try the garret just to compare. But as I said I was in one and was not that impressed (could have been his gearing and tire set-up, fuel adjustment etc though...) :meh::meh:
No disrespect at all:) I know you have more knowledge on turbos than I do, but I know how my truck drives and I have had a few cruiserheads try it out.
 
I had a Garrett TB2566 donated to from a 99 Mitsubishi Eclipse.
I could not find any reference to putting one on the 3b.
It is on now an I could not be happier.
Runs with probably 60% more power, 14/15lbs boost and about 800EGT...
I turned the fuel up a little to get boost from 7lbs to 14/15.
I have 32"tired stock gears, boost is in by about 1500rpm I now shift by 2500 instead of. 3500rpm...
Just thought I would add about turbo choice..
 
It's not down to the two turbos you are thinking of. The CT26 shouldn't be on anyones list.
I mean boost at 3000rpm is better than no boost at 3000rpm. But for the same cost and time you can do far better.

If you want new, get a GT2052. If you want used, get a T25. Those are the only two worth monkeying around with. There are of course other options (MHI etc), but you'll have to do the homework yourself.
If you buy a GT2052 used off a petrol, it could be very different.

Dougal, why would a gasser be different ? is it rpm's ?
Thanks
 
Dougal, why would a gasser be different ? is it rpm's ?
Thanks

Petrol engines have hotter exhaust, this drives the turbo harder and creates boost sooner.
But petrol turbos are also sized for high rpm power. Not low rpm torque.

When you consider those two factors and scale back to the rpm and temperatures we have, you end up with a turbocharger off a petrol being good for a diesel twice the size.
For a turbo from a petrol to work on a 3.4 litre 3B it needs to be off a 1.8-2 litre maximum petrol.
I am running a T25 from a 1.8 litre petrol on my 3.9 litre Isuzu. It works quite well, I have about 550Nm of torque and still no intercooler.

The turbo off a 3 litre supra motor would be good for a 5-6 litre diesel.
 
So I was thinking it would be the Gt2052 so with the second choice being the ct 26, I inquired about a new GT2052 and heard back from Alamo in Calgary. The price came in at $900.
At this point I will be leaning to getting the ct 26 from the wreckers unless anyone knows what vehicle a GT 2052 comes from ?
 
Cody,
Did Unified Alloys not work for you? I sent you a link to them in another thread. Thats who I used in Vancouver but they had an outlet in Calgary as well, if I recall.

I cant remember if I contacted them or not.
 
So I was thinking it would be the Gt2052 so with the second choice being the ct 26, I inquired about a new GT2052 and heard back from Alamo in Calgary. The price came in at $900.
At this point I will be leaning to getting the ct 26 from the wreckers unless anyone knows what vehicle a GT 2052 comes from ?

If you don't want to buy new, you want a T25.
 

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