3b into a 62?
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yup,
saw one here in vic. last year. looked good, like it was ment to be there
. square headlights suck though. 
the dude who did it, found a clean 88 62 IIRC and swapped from a ratty 84 bj60. swapped the 5spd in to.
hth's
crusty
saw one here in vic. last year. looked good, like it was ment to be there
. square headlights suck though. the dude who did it, found a clean 88 62 IIRC and swapped from a ratty 84 bj60. swapped the 5spd in to.
hth's
crusty
crushers
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if you do a search, there is Mike that has doen this very swap with an excellent write up of the whole process...
he put a 13BT into a 60(2) and loves it. very meticulice work.
he put a 13BT into a 60(2) and loves it. very meticulice work.
I don't even consider a Land Cruiser a land cruiser, if it isn't a diesel. I know it isn't the case, I know there gas engines are great, but honestly, thats the way I feel, they look like they all should have diesels.
crushers
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oh man, new generation diesel bigots...
cheers
cheers
been there done that one and will never look back 
....you will find the 3b almost as good as the 3fe...I do . Have almost got the turbo manifold built and then the power will , IMOP, be the same as the 3fe . Went from 14mpg to 28 so it will pay off. don't let people tell you it will never pay for itself 
cause it will.
It took me about 50 hrs to do the swap....it is like a factory bj now , except a/c,power windows.
Oh and the square headlights look good once all the grills are painted black I did post pics here somewhere. Search " pics. of my bj62 "
HTH'S , Daryl
....you will find the 3b almost as good as the 3fe...I do . Have almost got the turbo manifold built and then the power will , IMOP, be the same as the 3fe . Went from 14mpg to 28 so it will pay off. don't let people tell you it will never pay for itself cause it will.It took me about 50 hrs to do the swap....it is like a factory bj now , except a/c,power windows.
Oh and the square headlights look good once all the grills are painted black
I did post pics here somewhere. Search " pics. of my bj62 "HTH'S , Daryl
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crushers said:
I wouldn't buy any gas vechicle, good luck running black diesel or WVO in that!
crushers
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i drove both diesel and gasser cruisers for about 20 years and had great respect for both since back then we didn't have access to the sweet trucks we have comeing in now.
i loved the quick reving 2F, espec in the snow when trying to climb the hills around here. the 3B with 35s just didn't cut it when you get 1/2 to 3/4 the way up the hill and the engine would power out. in the summer the 3B was just fantastic, excellent fuel milage, great crawl ability.
then i joined the Rocky Mountain Land Cruisers Association and i found out what diesel bigots were. Peter, Marc, Bruce, Warren, Todd, Brett and others were all diesel lovers and as soon as i mentioned that (at the time) i drove a gasser, you could see Peter's hair stand up in shock. in his mind a gasser 45 was a waste of steel so of course i set out to prove to him that a gasser wa an excellent cruiser. during the course of the next few years i bought and sold plenty of diesel cruisers but i kept driving my gasser cruisers. one memorable day a bunch of us were in the foot hills in the winter heading back to the local falls when i lent my trusted 45 to a kid to drive. he dropped into a hole in the ice and between him and Peter the front birfeild got snapped. now in 2 WD i had to keep up with the diesel modded cruisers. i through on my chains on the rear tires and i putted along behind them.
when we finally came to a challenging hill. fairly long and ice and snow covered. the other diesels ran up the hill and i being last just stuck the H55F in low range and let the 4.11 gears int he diffs crawl that puppy at an idle right up and over the hill. as i passed Peter standing on the side of the trail he said "youdrive that like it was a gasser". i had proved my point, Peter had seen the light...
;^)
a gasser is just as good as a diesel both on road and off. the only real difference is the gas milage. a properly tuned gasser can crawl along just like a diesel and a turbo diesel can run just as fast as a gasser.
if you like the smell of diesel then a turbo diesel is perfect rig.
if you don;t then a gasser fits the bill.
i love them both.
<ever wonder why Brett's nickname is dieselbigot?>
i loved the quick reving 2F, espec in the snow when trying to climb the hills around here. the 3B with 35s just didn't cut it when you get 1/2 to 3/4 the way up the hill and the engine would power out. in the summer the 3B was just fantastic, excellent fuel milage, great crawl ability.
then i joined the Rocky Mountain Land Cruisers Association and i found out what diesel bigots were. Peter, Marc, Bruce, Warren, Todd, Brett and others were all diesel lovers and as soon as i mentioned that (at the time) i drove a gasser, you could see Peter's hair stand up in shock. in his mind a gasser 45 was a waste of steel so of course i set out to prove to him that a gasser wa an excellent cruiser. during the course of the next few years i bought and sold plenty of diesel cruisers but i kept driving my gasser cruisers. one memorable day a bunch of us were in the foot hills in the winter heading back to the local falls when i lent my trusted 45 to a kid to drive. he dropped into a hole in the ice and between him and Peter the front birfeild got snapped. now in 2 WD i had to keep up with the diesel modded cruisers. i through on my chains on the rear tires and i putted along behind them.
when we finally came to a challenging hill. fairly long and ice and snow covered. the other diesels ran up the hill and i being last just stuck the H55F in low range and let the 4.11 gears int he diffs crawl that puppy at an idle right up and over the hill. as i passed Peter standing on the side of the trail he said "youdrive that like it was a gasser". i had proved my point, Peter had seen the light...
;^)
a gasser is just as good as a diesel both on road and off. the only real difference is the gas milage. a properly tuned gasser can crawl along just like a diesel and a turbo diesel can run just as fast as a gasser.
if you like the smell of diesel then a turbo diesel is perfect rig.
if you don;t then a gasser fits the bill.
i love them both.
<ever wonder why Brett's nickname is dieselbigot?>
I didn't say that a gasser wasn't as capable, It has alot more power then the old 3B I'm sure. I know it is a strong old inline 6, but gas motors suck. The cruiser ones are far from fuel efficent, and on top of that you are stuck putting gas in them. Diesel motor are just better, but maybe not for the purpose of a Land Cruiser. I bought a diesel LC for a few reasons,
reliablity- although the old inline can get nearly 400 or 500 000, a diesel will get well over that if looked after
drivablity- having the drivable touque of a diesel under your foot.
fuel- being able to fun anything from vegatble oil, to regular petro diesel.
cool factor- everyone always asking, is that a diesel, and the look on there face when I say, yes!
You know what the best part about waynes post is, somehwere in the part when he was trying to convince the dieselbigots that gassers are just as good, he gave up on gas and switched to diesel!
reliablity- although the old inline can get nearly 400 or 500 000, a diesel will get well over that if looked after
drivablity- having the drivable touque of a diesel under your foot.
fuel- being able to fun anything from vegatble oil, to regular petro diesel.
cool factor- everyone always asking, is that a diesel, and the look on there face when I say, yes!
You know what the best part about waynes post is, somehwere in the part when he was trying to convince the dieselbigots that gassers are just as good, he gave up on gas and switched to diesel!
crushers
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Eric, my diesel bigot friend,Eric Winkworth said:
no where did i give up "trying" to prove the gasser is as good as a diesel. I did prove my point to one of the head diesel bigots and that was what i wanted to do. i have driven both, bouncing back and forth between them, for the last 25 years or since i bought my first diesel one in 1985...
i will still put a gasser Land Cruiser up against the diesel Land Cruisers. they are both equally capable rigs.
differences:
gassers suck fuel
diesel rigs stink
gassers have quicker reving capablilites
diesels have fuel injection
gassers are much cheaper to rebuild (around $800, if you do the work yourself)
diesels ... aren't. ($1500 for the kit and another $600 for machining IF you know the right place and if you do the work yourself)
gassers have more parts that have to work together to run
diesels .... don't
tune ups on gassers are cheap
diesels don't need tune ups as often
gassers have a $50 fuel pump
diesels ... don't (they cost in the neighbourhood of $1800 to get rebuilt)
simularities:
gassers and diesels have EXCELLENT off idle torque.
gassers and diesels are extremely reliable if maintained.
;^)
cheers
lol, your right Wayne, you have alot more experience with both LC's then me, but a carberated gas engine vs a diesel come on!
You know there's a reason they stopped using big block gassers in transport trucks. No matter how you look at it diesels are a newer, and have more technology in them. Gassers are cheap for a reason!
For a trail rig your 100% right, a gasser has an adventage in weight and HP, but a diesel is a better all around truck, effecient, low maintance, and of cousre the wonderful sounds and smell. Just the anticipation of the 5 sec glow plug cycle, watching the light and awaking the beast!!!
I know I know, diesel bigot.
cheers
You know there's a reason they stopped using big block gassers in transport trucks. No matter how you look at it diesels are a newer, and have more technology in them. Gassers are cheap for a reason!
For a trail rig your 100% right, a gasser has an adventage in weight and HP, but a diesel is a better all around truck, effecient, low maintance, and of cousre the wonderful sounds and smell. Just the anticipation of the 5 sec glow plug cycle, watching the light and awaking the beast!!!
I know I know, diesel bigot.
cheers
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crushers
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actually, this is another common misconception that a gasser F,2F,3F,3FE is lighter than the diesel. the weight is pretty close to even between the diesel and the gasser...
LOL!! maybe next time i am down that way we can have a show down between the diesel and the gasser...
you buy both and equip them exactly the same, i'll drive the gasser and we will go wheeling...
;^)
LOL!! maybe next time i am down that way we can have a show down between the diesel and the gasser...
you buy both and equip them exactly the same, i'll drive the gasser and we will go wheeling...
;^)
ya thats funny, I know the gasser will win in a race, I know the gasser has more power, lets see which one will run on vegtable oil! Lets see which one will start without spark plugs, lets see how far each can go on one fill up, lets see which has more compression. Gassers don't hold nearly as much value as the diesel either.
You arn't gonna convince me crusher, wait till gas is 3 bucks a litre, and I drive by you at the gas station running pure WVO! It will smell like fish, it's better for the enviroment, and the motor, not to mention its free, well kinda.
anyone else have any opionions?
You arn't gonna convince me crusher, wait till gas is 3 bucks a litre, and I drive by you at the gas station running pure WVO! It will smell like fish, it's better for the enviroment, and the motor, not to mention its free, well kinda.
anyone else have any opionions?
Eric Winkworth said:
Eric...dispel those old thoughts!
http://www.bankspower.com/Tech_dieselperf.cfm
gb
I don't mean diesel vs gas, I mean 4 cylinder diesel LC vs 6 cylinder gas LC, sorry I should have been more spicific. Just talking CDN cruisers
Like I said in previous post there is a reason they stopped using big block gassers in transport trucks.
Like I said in previous post there is a reason they stopped using big block gassers in transport trucks.
cruiser_guy
Out of Africa / North Africa
I think Wayne will agree with the statement that a diesel will have a lower lifetime ownership cost than a gasser assuming you buy one of each vehicle new and drive them till one quits. At the point the first one quits you amortize the cost per/km and I'm sure the diesel will win each and every time and the longer you go the better the margin for the diesel even factoring the increased purchase cost.
I compleatly agree, I just didn't have the words!!
This is as bad as the 3fe/1fz head knocking going on in the 80s forum. I love both my 3fe and 3B-and I loved my 2f too, when I had it 
But when I get in to drive my 3B into the field-EVERY time I return home-no matter how much oil she leaks-I love her, almost want to just stay out driving all day. And she will soon be back to non-leaky condition and in a new truck (Lets hope)...
But when I get in to drive my 3B into the field-EVERY time I return home-no matter how much oil she leaks-I love her, almost want to just stay out driving all day. And she will soon be back to non-leaky condition and in a new truck (Lets hope)...
fj803fe said:This is as bad as the 3fe/1fz head knocking going on in the 80s forum. I love both my 3fe and 3B-and I loved my 2f too, when I had it
But when I get in to drive my 3B into the field-EVERY time I return home-no matter how much oil she leaks-I love her, almost want to just stay out driving all day. And she will soon be back to non-leaky condition and in a new truck (Lets hope)...
Are you Scott Jensens bro ?
Daryl
