My 2 cents about the 300 series in the US....its not gona happen. But im guessing since the FJ Cruiser is still sold in specific markets, we might see a return of the old or maybe even a redesigned FJ Cruiser soon.
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Or is it just a rumor of when the reveal will be revealed?So now we are revealing when there will be a reveal?
Once again all they have to do is put Carplay in the LC or LX. It’s not rocket science. They’ve updated head units in the rest of the lineup.
$100k for a vehicle with a 10 year old headunit is a joke
I'd love to have Carplay, but I don't think it's really as simple as what you say.
2022 300 will have 70th anniversary badges, at least in the Middle East market.
My guess only for the first batches produced in 2021.
What better occasion for Toyota to celebrate 70 years of the LC than with the launch of an all new generation.
Yes but all the other Toyotas and Lexus now have carplay.I'd love to have Carplay, but I don't think it's really as simple as what you say.
Carplay requires connectivity to cellphones. It requires stable integration from the get-go and ongoing support as new phones get released, operating systems and protocols get updated, etc. Things will break, people will be mad, and things will need updating. And I'm sure there are licensing costs and difficulties involved, too. Yes, it's all doable and Toyota does it on other vehicles, but it all adds up in costs and affects the product's ROI.
It's also worth considering that any current tech/headunit will be obsolete in 3-4 years tops. Manufacturers simply cannot keep up with tech growth while retaining any semblance of reliability and reasonable costs.
Beyond the costs, for every person that wants Carplay, someone else wants complete head unit deletion. Keep in mind that the LC is a global-market vehicle, and in many markets the addition of complicated electronics is not desirable. Having configurable options would be great, but they are very expensive.
I once talked to a neighbour that used to be a product manager (or something similar) working on the 2nd Gen Tacoma. He told me of 6-hour long meetings to discuss the addition of a $0.10 part. Over millions of vehicles, ten cents plays a big role. Carplay addition will be exponentially more expensive.
And those that want Carplay will want other benefits, too. Heads-up displays, headlights made of hundreds of individually controllable LEDs, seats with massage function, better fuel economy, etc., etc. People will always complain about something lacking. In no time at all the list can get into Mercedes S-class territory, and that's simply not what Toyota is about.
Balancing the wants of the public vs. the cost to produce and maintain is a very difficult thing. They will never please everyone. If they add Carplay to the LC, but keep the price the same, they will have to remove something that we currently have/enjoy. It might be a reliable component that we've never had fail, but one that will be failing on future generations. How much are you willing to compromise to get Carplay? How much are you (the general/market "you") willing to pay?
I've always thought of Toyota as the company that lets other manufacturers experiment with the latest & greatest technologies/toys, and once the problems are ironed out, Toyota then implements those features into their vehicles. This is why Toyota tech is always 10-15 years behind, but it is also why Toyota tech works and does so with a predictable degree of reliability.
If you have to have the latest tech, you buy German. But you also do so with the understanding that things will break, and you will be paying a TON to fix them. If you want reliability and resale, you compromise on the latest tech and buy Japanese.
Exactly. The ridiculous headhunit on the LC with climate integration stops you from using a standard DIN upgrade which Kenwood or whoever would manufacture if it were possible.Sure it is. We have wireless Carplay in both our 32 year old hilux and our 27 year old 80 series, and have had the units for almost 4 years with 0 issues for $400 a piece. All CarPlay does is mirror your phone, so as long as your phone is up to date, your head unit should work better (in theory).
If you can find a faceplate to match your dash, you could easily have it too.
I haven’t heard this argument or complaint about an LC yet.Exactly. The ridiculous headhunit on the LC with climate integration stops you from using a standard DIN upgrade which Kenwood or whoever would manufacture if it were possible.
It doesn’t much matter. The new LC and LX will have carplay etc. in my opinion everything about the 200 Is a win except the headunit tech which is very very outdated and not important to most people. The JBL system even sounds really good.I haven’t heard this argument or complaint about an LC yet.
It's an issue for sure. There are multiple threads on both the 100 and 200 series forums for trying to get around the problem of their HVAC controls being integrated into their touch screens / stereos so they have no good alternatives to update to a head unit that includes modern standards. 30 yrs ago it was cassette tapes, 20 yrs ago it was CDs, 10 yrs ago it was DVDs, and 5 yrs ago it was CarPlay. I don't know where it will go, but you can be 100% certain that long before these new 300s are ready to be scrapped, it won't be CarPlay. On the other hand, double din size stereo head units have been around for at least 40 years. Maybe a new standard will come out to accommodate larger screens, but whatever that is, it likely won't include HVAC controls.I haven’t heard this argument or complaint about an LC yet.