I didn't think the installation of the actual bumper was all that difficult. It was all the prep work cutting the plastic bumper, rewiring the camera, wiring for fogs and marker lights, installing all of the parking sensors, lights and such on the bumper, prepping the winch. All of the details to get it installed took a long time. The actual mounting of the brackets and the bumper on the brackets was pretty quick. IMO. But yes, some parts of the install left me wondering, like the odd shape of the brackets and the long threaded bolts that go back into the frame. I suspect there were some modifications made to the mounting system to accommodate crash testing performance or something. Maybe?I’ve got ARB front and rear (with swing out) on my 80. I was impressed with just how difficult they are to install for what they are. Good product, but I don’t think the engineer spent much time on the shop floor putting the designs to life.