200 Series 2013 Engine Replacement - Urgent!!

[gray rider]

Another day closes in my engine search and as it relates to this thread there are maybe half a dozen possible engines (LC or LX) available on car-part.com but only one guy would give out a VIN prior to purchase. That one cross checked to a 2019 Tundra. Oh well. The search continues........

 

[TTO5]

Another day closes in my engine search and as it relates to this thread there are maybe half a dozen possible engines (LC or LX) available on car-part.com but only one guy would give out a VIN prior to purchase. That one cross checked to a 2019 Tundra. Oh well. The search continues........

There's a bunch on ebay. Type in lx570 engine.

 

[gray rider]

will do that now......but I think most of those are JDM's. Japanese Domestic Market and I was told that there are no VIN's. Will check it out.

 

[gray rider]

Yes there are a few listed at 5 grand. So with labor at 3-4 grand and 10% contingency this is a 10 grand leap of faith......

 

[gray rider]

and still no VIN numbers....unsettling....

 

[linuxgod]

What’s it cost to tear down an engine that’s already removed from a truck and rebuild it? Assume the crank, pistons, valves, and cams are ok, but new cam towers, rings, seals, chain, tensioners, etc. basically just assume it’s a 300k engine and it’s time for the first rebuild.

 

[gray rider]

@ linux: so you are saying tear down and rebuild the 5 grand ebay version ( or any version) before swapping in to the crippled vehicle?

 

[TTO5]

@ linux: so you are saying tear down and rebuild the 5 grand ebay version ( or any version) before swapping in to the crippled vehicle?

Yes. My total bill was around that amount but I got lucky and found a donor engine with only 45k on it. If you can find one with low miles like that I think it's worth it. I still had the shop reseal the valley to prevent/prolong a valley coolant leak. I also chose to replace the water pump and starter at the same time to save labor costs in the future

 

[gray rider]

Yes. My total bill was around that amount but I got lucky and found a donor engine with only 45k on it. If you can find one with low miles like that I think it's worth it. I still had the shop reseal the valley to prevent/prolong a valley coolant leak. I also chose to replace the water pump and starter at the same time to save labor costs in the future

The challenge is in finding a low mileage well maintained donor vehicle. And the parts guys won't disclose the donor VIN number. Plenty of tundras available but no one seems to know if a tundra engine will "plug-n-play"....

 

[TTO5]

The challenge is in finding a low mileage well maintained donor vehicle. And the parts guys won't disclose the donor VIN number. Plenty of tundras available but no one seems to know if a tundra engine will "plug-n-play"....

Yeah I've heard there are differences with the tundra engine but no one seems to know what they are

 

[Zill]

The challenge is in finding a low mileage well maintained donor vehicle. And the parts guys won't disclose the donor VIN number. Plenty of tundras available but no one seems to know if a tundra engine will "plug-n-play"....

I thought it was just the bolt on components that were different? Not the actual engine block itself.

 

[Zill]

If my engine ever blew, I would buy a local used Tundra motor and do a write-up and analysis on what specifically needs to swap over. It will be useful, and I’m sure it would cut the 15k repair bills in half for the (low chance) that these engines go out.

There will be plenty of used Tundra motors for years to come, but not these low production 200’s.

 

[bloc]

Yeah I've heard there are differences with the tundra engine but no one seems to know what they are

When I get time I plan to dig into the parts diagrams and find out. I do believe our engines have a low oil level sensor that tundras do not, but most of the other parts not involved in the flex fuel system are identical. I intend to find out for sure.

Realistically though, most people not able to do the install themselves would have to find an engine supplier willing to warranty it going into a different platform, and a shop that will play ball as well. The former seems much more difficult to find.

 

[ryanCA]

If my engine ever blew, I would buy a local used Tundra motor and do a write-up and analysis on what specifically needs to swap over. It will be useful, and I’m sure it would cut the 15k repair bills in half for the (low chance) that these engines go out.

There will be plenty of used Tundra motors for years to come, but not these low production 200’s.

when my engine blows, I am getting a 16+.

When that engine blows, I am buying a 250.

 

[gray rider]

You guys are making great points. I intend to summarize the available choices, etc....soon.

 

[liv2bike]

When I get time I plan to dig into the parts diagrams and find out. I do believe our engines have a low oil level sensor that tundras do not, but most of the other parts not involved in the flex fuel system are identical. I intend to find out for sure.

Realistically though, most people not able to do the install themselves would have to find an engine supplier willing to warranty it going into a different platform, and a shop that will play ball as well. The former seems much more difficult to find.

I learned it comes down to vin compatibility.
Reputable shops/yards selling used engines will ask for your vin. If the engine you are looking at buying isn’t compatible with your vin, they won’t sell you the engine. Could be why we aren’t seeing tundra or sequoia engines getting stuffed into 200’s.

 

[Import Driver]

I learned it comes down to vin compatibility.
Reputable shops/yards selling used engines will ask for your vin. If the engine you are looking at buying isn’t compatible with your vin, they won’t sell you the engine. Could be why we aren’t seeing tundra or sequoia engines getting stuffed into 200’s.

Seriously? In what world would a salvage yard not want to sell me an engine? I've never heard of such a thing. Seems that is I asked for a tundra engine, they would be more than happy to sell it to me. That's how they make money. If I ask for an LS or a Honda K24 what do they care what I'm swapping it into? They don't.

What am I miss understanding?

 

[liv2bike]

Seriously? In what world would a salvage yard not want to sell me an engine? I've never heard of such a thing. Seems that is I asked for a tundra engine, they would be more than happy to sell it to me. That's how they make money. If I ask for an LS or a Honda K24 what do they care what I'm swapping it into? They don't.

What am I miss understanding?

I just went through this man. Literally. I’m just describing how it worked when I needed an engine for my 200. Car-part would not sell my shop an engine that wasn’t compatible with my vin. For example, if you have a 2008 200 they won’t sell you anything other than an engine out of a 2008-2011 200. They would not sell us a 2013 engine. Or a 2016 engine. Period. It wasn’t an option. We had to give them my vin number. Surely you can buy anything you want in a gray or black market. But we wanted a legit donor and a warranty.

 

[bloc]

I think we need to be explicit about the questions being discussed here.

Some seem to be thinking the tundra/sequoia 3UR physically will not work when installed in a 200. That's one question.. I personally believe it will, but want to confirm a bunch of important shared part numbers first.

The other is, if the owner wants a warranty, why does it matter if the Tundra engine can fit if no shop will do the job with that warranty?

 

[gray rider]

when my engine blows, I am getting a 16+.

When that engine blows, I am buying a 250.

Share your thoughts on your preference for 2016+ (maybe its obvious).....