200 Series 2013 Engine Replacement - Urgent!! (1 Viewer)

[rexington14]

Even in fantasy land where Tundra/Sequoia motors are commonly swapped into 200s, it's still going to be a well into 5 figure job. The Tundra/Sequoia 5.7s aren't -that- much cheaper. And additional labor that would be required to "make it work in a 200" hasn't been documented or quantified, and of course would eat into the difference in motor price.

Regardless, you would be a fool to pay that kind of money for a used engine from a junkyard, and the labor for the mechanic to "figure it out", without any warranty whatsoever.

 

[gray rider]

Even in fantasy land where Tundra/Sequoia motors are commonly swapped into 200s, it's still going to be a well into 5 figure job. The Tundra/Sequoia 5.7s aren't -that- much cheaper. And additional labor that would be required to "make it work in a 200" hasn't been documented or quantified, and of course would eat into the difference in motor price.

Regardless, you would be a fool to pay that kind of money for a used engine from a junkyard, and the labor for the mechanic to "figure it out", without any warranty whatsoever.

Agree mostly. It's not that the used Tundra engines are cheaper, it is that they are more available.
I agree that the labor would probably be more due to the "figure it out" process and I agree there would likely be no warranty.

Also, there really is no market for replacing 200 engines and there appears to be only 4 of us on Mud that have been in this situation....

 

[rexington14]

Agree mostly. It's not that the used Tundra engines are cheaper, it is that they are more available.
I agree that the labor would probably be more due to the "figure it out" process and I agree there would likely be no warranty.

Also, there really is no market for replacing 200 engines and there appears to be only 4 of us on Mud that have been in this situation....

I'm not saying it's common, but I imagine a lot of people this happens to, when they see the insane price of engine replacement, they instantly decide to sell the truck as is.

That's probably how you got your truck in the first place, right? Whoever had it previously blew the motor, dumped it as-is to a used dealer / shop which of course can put in a replacement motor cheaper using on-staff labor, then flip it (without disclosing the replacement motor which was a slimeball move). The fact that either the motor was bad or they botched the install of it simply illustrates the risks involved in such a job.

 

[ryanCA]

Share your thoughts on your preference for 2016+ (maybe its obvious).....

Best of the 200 series.

Less ugly. More gears. Higher resale.

 

[linuxgod]

@ linux: so you are saying tear down and rebuild the 5 grand ebay version ( or any version) before swapping in to the crippled vehicle?

If you’re not sure the age or true condition, yes I’m saying how much more would it add to do a tear down of the replacement before installing? Bearings, rings, hone the block, etc. basically bring it back to new so you know you should get 400-500k out of it

 

[TTO5]

Best of the 200 series.

Less ugly. More gears. Higher

 

[TTO5]

Of course a 16 and up will have higher resale they cost more to buy so it's all relevant.

 

[Import Driver]

I just went through this man. Literally. I’m just describing how it worked when I needed an engine for my 200. Car-part would not sell my shop an engine that wasn’t compatible with my vin. For example, if you have a 2008 200 they won’t sell you anything other than an engine out of a 2008-2011 200. They would not sell us a 2013 engine. Or a 2016 engine. Period. It wasn’t an option. We had to give them my vin number. Surely you can buy anything you want in a gray or black market. But we wanted a legit donor and a warranty.

Ok thanks for the clarification. It makes sense that they won't warranty it if the engine isn't compatible with the VIN.

Saying they won't sell an engine period, really confused me simply because I do things differently, so my mind thinks different. For example, if I were in the situation I would buy the cheapest Tundra or Sequoia engine I could find (which they would sell me no questions asked, no warranty) and I would tear into it. So that was the scenario I imagined which is obviously pretty far from what most people would do.

It's shocking that there isn't more info about these potential swaps.

 

[ryanCA]

Of course a 16 and up will have higher resale they cost more to buy so it's all relevant.

lx570 cost more new- go look at their resale in used market vs Lc

 

[gray rider]

If you’re not sure the age or true condition, yes I’m saying how much more would it add to do a tear down of the replacement before installing? Bearings, rings, hone the block, etc. basically bring it back to new so you know you should get 400-500k out of it

Good point. I will add it to the list of possibles......

 

[TTO5]

lx570 cost more - go look at their resale in used market vs Lc

Maybe things changed. When I bought my 2010 lx570 6 years ago thry were cheaper than same year cruiser. Maybe that scenario has changed?

 

[32cls6speedmt]

JARCO INC 770.479.4942 – Engine Assemblies Reconditioned & Remanufactured to Original Specification with Genuine Parts

jarcoinc.com

here is another option jarco inc. Engine rebuilders. They have a great warranty. They only use orm parts. They do rebuild 3ur. They will sell to Lexus or Toyota dealerships. They are outside Atlanta so shipping will not be too bad. I called them this morning and was informed all this information.

 

[ryanCA]

JARCO INC 770.479.4942 – Engine Assemblies Reconditioned & Remanufactured to Original Specification with Genuine Parts

jarcoinc.com

here is another option jarco inc. Engine rebuilders. They have a great warranty. They only use orm parts. They do rebuild 3ur. They will sell to Lexus or Toyota dealerships. They are outside Atlanta so shipping will not be too bad. I called them this morning and was informed all this information.

price?

 

[32cls6speedmt]

They will only sell to Toyota and/or Lexus dealership. @gray rider had a quote for labor from Toyota dealership in another thread.

 

[gray rider]

They will only sell to Toyota and/or Lexus dealership. @gray rider had a quote for labor from Toyota dealership in another thread.

Local Toyo dealer told me I can order direct from Jarco and save 1500.00. Probably torpedoes the labor warranty though.....

 

[32cls6speedmt]

@gray rider. The person who answered the phone was knowledgeable and he said he has changed out a 3 ur.

I don’t think it will void the warranty by purchasing directly. I would ask them what components have they replaced during their rebuilding. He said it is not a simple plug and play. He said you do have some knowledge about the 3 ur.

I tired to help you out with another option.

 

[gray rider]

@gray rider. The person who answered the phone was knowledgeable and he said he has changed out a 3 ur.

I don’t think it will void the warranty by purchasing directly. I would ask them what components have they replaced during their rebuilding. He said it is not a simple plug and play. He said you do have some knowledge about the 3 ur.

I tired to help you out with another option.

Thanks! The list of options is growing......

 

[liv2bike]

I too considered a rebuilt crate engine. But I decided I wanted a sealed donor. IE a donor that hadn’t been opened up and molested. Just too many unknowns when hands have been in there. Plus the labor hours it involved made it cost prohibitive.

 

[xeuxaz]

Best of the 200 series.

Less ugly. More gears. Higher resale.

bulls eye.

 

[gray rider]

Hi! I need to replace the engine in my 2013 Land Cruiser due to various issues. I've found some newer engines from 2015-2018 Lexus LX570 and Land Cruisers. Can anyone confirm if a newer engine from a Lexus or Toyota Land Cruiser will fit my 2013 model? I have a mechanic ready to do the swap, but I need help sourcing the right engine. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!View attachment 3727484

@Shabzy35. I have mostly hi-jacked your thread (but I think it is still pretty relative to your original dilemma.
But this begs the question: Did you ever get your engine situation resolved? (if it is posted somewhere I have over-looked it)...