200.00 sliders

[NorCalDoug]

I don't think those necessarily "fit" 80 series cruisers.
they used to have a set that was pretty much a complete weld-on slider for the 80...but that's not longer available from what I've heard.

don't cheap out on sliders...it's not worth it.

 

[sleeoffroad]

Hey, I did not say they fit, but they are less than $200

 

[2badfjs]

67" is close enough for 80's

i stand corrected
tube i believe you can do for under $200.

you would just have to buy a $400. bender

 

[Tools R Us]

67" is close enough for 80's

i stand corrected
tube i believe you can do for under $200.

you would just have to buy a $400. bender

Then a $200+ die!

Marlin made simple round tube weld on sliders for the 80, they cost $499 and were discontinued due to lack of sales.

 

[heckler]

i dont see where you guys are getting off on saying that it can not be done for under $200. Eric (landspeeder) and I made some just a few months ago. I think they look great and hold up excellent. just the other weekend somebody mistook them for Slee's.

And in comparing 4runner sliders to land cruiser sliders that is like comparing apples to oranges.

If you want to make it a cheaper build use schd40 pipe on the outside tube, In my opinion it holds up better to impacts than DOM (which is better for structural applications ie a cage) than all you need is like a $50 dollar bedner.

My main point is that it can be done for $200.

 

[slick621]

i dont see where you guys are getting off on saying that it can not be done for under $200. Eric (landspeeder) and I made some just a few months ago. I think they look great and hold up excellent. just the other weekend somebody mistook them for Slee's.

And in comparing 4runner sliders to land cruiser sliders that is like comparing apples to oranges.

If you want to make it a cheaper build use schd40 pipe on the outside tube, In my opinion it holds up better to impacts than DOM (which is better for structural applications ie a cage) than all you need is like a $50 dollar bedner.

My main point is that it can be done for $200.

Im going to back Mark up on this one. Over MLK weekend at Tellico, I saw the sliders that Eric (Landspeeder) and Mark (Heckler) fabbed up. I was very impressed and initially thought they were Slee's except that they were weld on. And like they said, it just took them a lot of time but they were able to get it in under $200. I want to do something similar but presently may not have the time for the work involved, and I want to make sure I do it right.

 

[sleeoffroad]

OK, look at post 1 on this. He asked where he can get them for $200. Not can he make them for under $200 in materials.

 

[slick621]

Slee,

I was supporting Heckler and Landspeeder following 2badfjs' comment that he did not believe that they could be bought/built for under $200 (post #38).

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Land Speeder]

OK, look at post 1 on this. He asked where he can get them for $200. Not can he make them for under $200 in materials.

Mark is responding to others on this thread stating that it can't be made for $200 either... where I responded by post #39 to post #38. It's the ever evolving thread syndrone, starts as one thing ends up another.

 

[lahar50]

I wouldn't weld mine on but that is me.

 

[Shahram]

FWIW, I fabbed these sliders for my Xterra back in '03. I cut down on cost and simplified the design by eliminating the main stay, and making the outrigger the main stay. The end result was that they flexed a little bit, but they were lightweight and very effective. I got the steel, which was 2"x4"x3/16" square tubing, plus six base plates at 4"x4"x5/16" for just over $100.00. The base plates were scrap, the steel company had them laying around in stacks for like $0.50 apiece. I didn't have a proper chop saw at the time, so I had them cut there, which cost around $18.00. The welds, as you can see, aren't pretty, but they sure were tough. I finished it off with a couple of cans of Pep Boys spray-on bedliner ($7.00 a can).

The main difference between the Xterra and the Cruiser is the shape of the frame. The Xterra's frame is bone straight, and sticks out well below the body pinch, unlike the more complicated Cruiser, which requires offset gussets and other stuff.

The Xterra also had threaded holes in the frame which are meant for bolt-on sliders . Hardest parts were finding the correct size grade 8 bolts, which were rare, and lining up the holes when you've got no template and no precise measurements. For my Cruiser, I would definitely weld the sliders on. It's easier to grind off a welded slider than to machine the right size holes in the exact right place and bolt them on. My opinion, anyway.

I don't own the Xterra anymore. I beat the crap out of the sliders, repainted them, and now they are being used by a guy up in NorCal with no complaints so far.

 

[firetruck41]

Like I said in my first post on this thread - it's been discussed before - and that ridiculous statement - that 80 series sliders were more expensive than other vehicle sliders because they were higher quality was made multiple times.

Slee added a few other good reasons why they're more. I was refering to another thread, where "quality" was given as the reason they are more than 4 runners or whatever other model, and it was a bull**** statement there, and I expected it to get repeated here.

No doubt their higher cost is due at least in part, to higher quality than many cheaper sliders out there for other makes, (notice I did not say higher quality than all sliders for all vehicles), just look at the Slee sliders vs. the $135 4runner sliders mentioned in this thread, there is a definite/obvious quality difference.

 

[snowcruiser]

To all those that bitch and criticize the price/cost of sliders for LC80s stop wasting all your time here on the internet, go buy the stinkin' steel and figure a way to build them yourself, George even provided plans and posted them for FREE on this website. If your sliders come out as nice as the Slee or Hanna sliders and you still feel that the Slee and Hannas are over priced you have yourself a business. Otherwise drive without sliders and risk the damage or pony up and protect that investment. I made a set for my 80 following George's plans and BELIEVE ME any set of sliders built for an LC80 that sells for under $600.00 is questionable at best.

Sliders for $200.00....don't waste your money.

 

[4LLC]

thanks for the in put guys i have access to a miller mig welder a hydralic tubing bender and a plasma cutter so if it comes right down to it i can make them myself but the ones i saw were per bent and cut you just had to put them together with a welder it took the measuring and cutting out of the picture

 

[loquito]

Hey Jim
I am doing this project right now, your prices and minimum lengths are right on info, what you said is exactly what I have ran into. My U bolts were $10 each plus more for washers and nuts. Your hauling home a 20 foot section comment was also on the money, I had the yard cut off two 6 foot sections, that left me with a 8 foot section of 2x4 by 1/8 steel square tube that I may or may not use along with the other left over steel, oh and the one cut cost $7.50. I can not powdercoat so I have no idea of that price, but I do know I have spent many man hours getting the outriggers angles right.
If I lived in the continental USA where shipping is more reasonable I would have just ordered some.
Anyway you make a good point Jim.
Steven

gotta chime in here....
christo, i'm with ya on this..

80 sliders are 70" long
i can only buy 20' lengths of steel stock,or 10' foot lengths
your not getting two side rails out of a 10' chunk,so you have to buy a 20' stick
20'x2"x4"x11gauge will run you about $90. give or take..
so out of the 20' stick or 240", your going to cut two 70" rails.
now you have 100" of steel left to work your outriggers with, and thats prolly not even one piece,cause i know your not haulin home a 20' stick of steel unless you have a trailer.
so say you had the steel co. cut your 20' stick in half(which they will)
now you have two 50" pieces of 2x4 that you prolly arent gonna make outriggers with.
so now you also need cannel steel (which christo/slee uses) or 2x3 rectangle stock.(my choice)
you can prolly get away with a 10' stick of that for outriggers so figure $40. for that.
you now need plate steel. what size? slee sliders have two sizes from what i can tell.
so you gotta figure the steel yard minimum is 10' lengths on two sizes..hmmmm another $50. in plate.
now lets talk u-bolts....
6 u-bolts that i used to use on my sliders that i had a spring shop custom bend for me, ran right around $56. suspension grade u-bolts with nuts and washers
material cost:
90.
+40.
+50.
+56.
=236. please correct me if i'm wrong i cant add

then if you have them powdercoated $150. at least

$236.
+$150.
=$386.00

or if you just paint them figure $20. for paint

then figure prolly anywhere from 10-15 man hours to build...

i could go on but i hope you see my point
80 series sliders are NOT a easy build...
and that prolly why i've decided NOT to build these.

these just dont seem fun or profitable for me to build.

jim

 

[motherhucker]

intrestingly if you go to trail gears site and look at the installation page, the vehicle shown is an 80. Even more intresting it is the same 80 that was in the photos for the Marlin 80series sliders that used to be on Marlins site (before they were discontinued).

 

[firetruck41]

Chris Geiger of Trail Gear was formerly from Marlin, IIRC, and he has an 80.

 

[2badfjs]

quote snowcruiser: BELIEVE ME any set of sliders built for an LC80 that sells for under $600.00 is questionable at best.


WHATever!!!!
i could make them and sell them for around $500.
and they'd be tougher than most mass produced sliders.

i am choosing not to, because i have no extra time to mock up and build.

so how much did you build yours for?
questionable at best!

 

[firetruck41]

quote snowcruiser: BELIEVE ME any set of sliders built for an LC80 that sells for under $600.00 is questionable at best.


WHATever!!!!
i could make them and sell them for around $500.
and they'd be tougher than most mass produced sliders.

i am choosing not to, because i have no extra time to mock up and build.

so how much did you build yours for?
questionable at best!

You could build them for $xx but you can't, because you don't have time. That is part of the equation you are forgetting, time is money. You could either re-focus and spend more time on 80 series sliders and less on other $$ making ventures, or pay someone to work on them, either way you will have to charge more money to cover your costs, and the real cost will increase.

 

[2badfjs]

You could build them for $xx but you can't, because you don't have time. That is part of the equation you are forgetting, time is money. You could either re-focus and spend more time on 80 series sliders and less on other $$ making ventures, or pay someone to work on them, either way you will have to charge more money to cover your costs, and the real cost will increase.

lets just say i dont have time right now i've got my own junk/projects to get done
i have a set sittin in my garage that i can pretty much copy and modify.
i dont even need to do r&d on them.