1HDT/WTA intercooler

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Please do talk about me in the 3rd person. I'm offering up my numbers for international scrutiny and in the end it will help me....hopefully help lots of people.

There's no doubt that a second or larger radiator will help me. My cooler is removing 75% of the heat it theoretically can, and of course that theoretical amount is always going to be dependent on the water supplied to it.

My intake path is far from optimal and is almost certainly affecting flow at high boosted cfm. I have a couple of nasty little bends and choke points and resolving this is going to be a fairly high priority for me. Part of that will involve the plenum entry which makes it a no brainer to enlarge it at the same time.

Re: turning down my boost, it would necessitate some minor tuning adjustments because I'm adding fuel a little bit aggressively through mid range rpms because my turbo just flies through that range so quickly.

I'm tuned for max egt at full boost, heavy throttle, heavily loaded up, and moderately high altitude. Off boost is set for a puff off the line which clears pretty much immediately and the spring preload just prevents me from being obnoxious at partial boost. Basically just a haze when I'm stepping on it. It isn't perfect and I know Graeme or the guys at ATEB could do a much better job but I prefer to do it myself and know exactly what I've done and why, even if someone else could do it better.
 
I'll pm you when I get my computer back in regards to pump tune and mods if you like. But even as is. Hook your gauges up and drop boost to 15. Testing it with normal every day driving, and your hill tests. Your numbers so far are absolute worse heat soak. Your numbers for every day driving SHOULD be pretty close to mine.
 
Thanks, I'm always interested to learn about someone else's take on things.

I have discussed it with Graeme quite a bit and have his aneroid modification instructions. mudgudgeon was also quite helpful in sharing his experiences. I've spent many many hours learning how it all works and planning and executing my own mods.

Everyone has some unique perspective to offer however minor the difference may seem.
 
I didn't want to start releasing info until I have things the way I want them. But I already posted on another forum. So thought I'd add here. My set up is the same kit as Adam's. And the current radiator (300x300x50/12"x12"x2") is absolutely pathetic lol. But here's some feed back anyway. After a highway run where I was driving fairly hard. Ambient was 35'c. 15psi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CcsgOhRqBs

I held flat from 60kph to 160kph. Temps where pre 118'c, post 45'c. It seems to settle at 45'c post intake no matter what I do. Can't wait for more volume and a larger radiator. Then I'll up the boost to 25 and check to see if flow rate is keeping up.

Other pics. Tiny radiator
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Straight to the pump and back to the cooler.
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Tune before intercooler was filled with water.
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Plain old water. It's nothing special and system is still terrible. There aren't many hills around here so all I can do is drive it hard. I will do few proper full length vids after I've finished the set up properly. But for 3 litres of water. That's not bad.

Had a fair bit of weight in it. 33ambient
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsEeWiIijP0

So far 70-95%.
 
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Mark, I won't knock what you are doing but really the Gateway Bridge as a test strip, Granddad can do that in a Pajero towing a 40ft van.
If it works good on ya, if it don't expect the I told you so.
 
It already works. It can just be alot better than the current "kit" you get.

The gateway bridge is irrelevant to the intercoolers efficiency. I had plans to load it up/tow through the toowoomba ranges. But from what I'm finding there's no point (but ill do it anyway).

It seems to just work mostly off boost. I can turn my fuel up or down, loaded or unloaded, up a steep hill or on the flat - the pre and post intercooler temps remain the same. The egt's go up or down. As all of this is down stream from the head. I thought there would be more transfer of heat from the turbo itself to the intake charge. But there's not. Compress the air to 15psi = x temp. 20psi = y temp. So only the engine bay heat hasn't been tested yet. But I have somewhat shielded it and I do have a bonnet scoop above now.

More testing to do. Maybe Dougal can shed some more light.
 
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Just tested this current system, full loaded with people and camping gear through powerdy sand 40kph max for 20min. Obviously it was boosting higher than normal due to load. 35'c amb, 53 pre-43post. Not a worry. 55% efficency, so same as yours Adam.
 
Mark, I won't knock what you are doing but really the Gateway Bridge as a test strip, Granddad can do that in a Pajero towing a 40ft van.
If it works good on ya, if it don't expect the I told you so.

So let me ask you Bernie. Who's going to be the one saying "I told you so?" And then who do I get to tell them they where wrong? Yourself?


Most of the people ready to say I told you so, have never had anything to do with a WTA system at all. If they did, I would listen. The current "pathetic" system has already proven itself. Now to increase the efficency.
 
Thanks for posting up the results. How long did it take to soak? sounds like you weren't working it that hard if your pre was only 53C. Whats your next move, bigger capacity and radiator? It looks like the short runs show that your intercooler is pretty efficient, just need to shed the heat from the system. I know that my top mound wont really function at speeds like that and I really need a good fan for low speeds.
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But I was working hard :). That's just what the temps where. I thought that was a really good test, as there was no breeze what so ever on the inland tracks (and it was powder soft).

Solong as everyone realises I'm running a much better flowing turbo and some engine work aswell. I took a heap of vids (although its never the same as being there yourself). I just got back from the island. The funny part was I realised my post number where higher than when I left (highway - same load) so I checked it. And found a loose clamp leaking. Don't know how much water I've lost. But there's not much in the system to start with :(. Still happy with the numbers though. If you buy a frozen boost kit... That's the numbers you will end up with (close to anyway).
 
Your video's show nothing!
Just off idle & under 20 kmh :popcorn:

And you have no oil pressure.

Time for an independant dyno run (not just 1 you found with good numbers of the internet)

Kick the thing in the guts & give it some sh1t.

Hamo

What are you talking about "numbers I've pulled off the net". What's a dyno going to do? You have a huge fan pumping air at all times. People want to see what a stock off the shelf frozen boost WTA kits like in real life.


I'd like to see the numbers from a ATA under the exact same conditions and speed for comparison.
 
Were you in low range in that sand?
 
No high range 2nd. Had to drop back to 1st a few times as it was soft.
 
People want to see what a stock off the shelf frozen boost WTA kits like in real life.
Sorry if I missed it but which one are you running? Any pictures on the install?
 

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