1990 HZJ77 (1 Viewer)

[Gun Runner 5]

The right electric locking hub that refused to lock for 3 days when I really needed it is NOW LOCKED although it is de-selected.

 

[WanderinWhitlows]

When you weigh in excess of 1/2 million pounds you don't need no stinking turn signals.

So it's basically a giant BMW?

 

[Gun Runner 5]

So it's basically a giant BMW?

The Airbus is largely French so it's basically a Citroen.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

After a number of hours of manual labor which I'm totally adverse to, I was able to remove the bulk of the Tennessee
"pin striping".

 

[Gun Runner 5]

 

[AndrewHadji]

Didnt see a before pic, so pics are obviously photoshopped

 

[peterb]

I'll be interested to learn what you and Rob decide to do with the electric hubs.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

I've got the parts available to rebuild the electric hubs but I'm not convinced it's prudent to do so. 75%-25% chance I'll just go with manual hubs. I don't like the fact that a hub or hubs can fail and you don't know it until it's to late.

 

[OGBeno]

Yup.

The e-locking hubs were an "upgrade" according to Toyota. Unfortunately putting electric components down low where they can be immersed in water and pass through the grease dams in the hub was a bad idea.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

This weeks to-do list includes unlocking the one that is stuck in the locked position. That will buy me some time to make a final decision. Fortunately I had a winch and a VERY STRONG recovery point to make up for the hub issue.

 

[divemedic]

... a VERY STRONG recovery point to make up for the hub issue.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

Several levels of frustration ......
The Cruiser was lifted and multiple combinations were tried none of which would lock up the right front electric hub.
The donor parts .....

 

[Gun Runner 5]

The electric hub (L) was removed and although the tiny electric motor would engage on the bench, it took a while to fully spool up. The donor hub (R) didn't have this issue so it was lubed up for replacement.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE ..... In addition to the hub motor issue, the inner rings aren't powered for some reason and more troubleshooting is required.
Hopefully the wiring diagram will shed some light.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

While the Japanese engineer who was in charge of this project probably thought his design was the "cats meow" there appears to be multiple ways for this thing to fail.

 

[Diesel Cruiserman]

These hub adapters that Radd Cruisers sells are a good option for eliminating the electric hubs...

 

[OGBeno]

I was going to say, is your goal to keep it original Charles? That way I can at least understand the logic.

But if not, man, stop wasting your and Rob's time and swap that junk out.

 

[Diesel Cruiserman]

Me and Kyle at NWF designed these adapters years ago and really glad to see John is still selling them..I think they are a great option. One fella from New Zealand said they were crap, I disagree with this statement as the units we made capture all the fasteners and pins. I had heard of a set sold overseas that did not capture all the fasteners and they had problems keeping them tight.

Crusher ran 36 inch tractor tires and beat on these units for a couple years with no failures..

 

[Gun Runner 5]

Premise #1. My goal with this Cruiser, as well as everyone I have owned, is to keep them as original as possible.
Premise #2. I'm not so entrenched in this philosophy that I fail to recognize that some designs can be improved.
Premise #3. I've never seen the internal workings of Toyota's electric locking hubs and I doubt Rob has either so spending an afternoon learning how they work is time well spent in my opinion. (We already have the parts on the shelf so all that's being wasted is a little labor but again it can be entertaining to learn how something works.)
Premise #4. (This is the important one). I truly do appreciate everyone's effort to help and offer positive advise and despite what some might think, I do listen.

 

[Gun Runner 5]

Update:
There is no electrical power to the entire right hub. There is a problem in the junction where the two power wires spilt to feed the left and right hubs. (again the left hub locks & unlocks normally).
Fun times .....