1964 FJ45 LB “RB1” Project

[Gusb]

Very nice job on the cart! Is that 2 inch tube and what's the wall thickness? Looks like a really good fit on the smaller (1.5 inch?) inside tube?

What kind of minimum weather conditions/temps are you looking at for paint?

Nice welding on the frame - which machine is that?

 

[miker]

As usual Mike, looks awesome!!
Put me in line for the rental of the body cart!
This way you can make your $$ back and then some.

Cart rental Maybe there is some money to be made here.

Very nice job on the cart! Is that 2 inch tube and what's the wall thickness? Looks like a really good fit on the smaller (1.5 inch?) inside tube?

Good eye on the size, yes its 1.5" and 2" tube all with 3/16" wall. The 3/16" is overkill for this cart but the 3/16" square tube has a better slip fit than 1/8" and it does not crush as easily when using the pinch bolts.

What kind of minimum weather conditions/temps are you looking at for paint?

Upper 70's or mid 80's for a high would be perfect so that you have at least several hours of the day above 60. Not likely to see those again for several months or more. The 60's we are having now should work too, just will take longer times between coats, and will probably need to wait until afternoon when its at least 55+ before starting. Then only have a short time before things begin to cool down again for the day.

Nice welding on the frame - which machine is that?

A couple years ago, I picked up a really clean used Miller Vintage. I'd been looking for a 200 - 250A MIG machine for awhile. I have an old MM150 but its just not the best for anything over 3/16".

The Vintage is a 250A class machine and was Miller's remake of the infamous MM200. The vintage is an old school design with switches and dials, no electronic display, etc. It has 12 voltage taps, 6 on high and 6 on low, and as well, high and low wire speed settings each with 0 to 100 control. Makes for a lot of adjustments and it can get confusing but I'm getting used to it now and find I generally use just several settings since I'm mostly working with 1/8, 3/16, or 1/4 thick material.

I really like the arc it produces especially on the taps 1 to 5. It gets just a little harsh on the top tap (#6) compared to 1-5 but is still a very smooth arc. The welding on the 45 frame, which is close to 3/16" thick was done with the welder on low range, tap 5, using .030 solid wire with a shielding gas Airgas calls "Gold". I think its roughly a 75/25 mix.

Probably more info than you wanted.

 

[subzali]

...A couple years ago, I picked up a really clean used Miller Vintage. I'd been looking for a 200 - 250A MIG machine for awhile. I have an old MM150 but its just not the best for anything over 3/16".

The Vintage is a 250A class machine and was Miller's remake of the infamous MM200. The vintage is an old school design with switches and dials, no electronic display, etc. It has 12 voltage taps, 6 on high and 6 on low, and as well, high and low wire speed settings each with 0 to 100 control. Makes for a lot of adjustments and it can get confusing but I'm getting used to it now and find I generally use just several settings since I'm mostly working with 1/8, 3/16, or 1/4 thick material.

I really like the arc it produces especially on the taps 1 to 5. It gets just a little harsh on the top tap (#6) compared to 1-5 but is still a very smooth arc. The welding on the 45 frame, which is close to 3/16" thick was done with the welder on low range, tap 5, using .030 solid wire with a shielding gas Airgas calls "Gold". I think its roughly a 75/25 mix.

Probably more info than you wanted.

Very good info for me as I lurk! Thanks!

 

[miker]

Decided not to wait any longer, frame is at the media blaster. Hoping to have it back by Friday.

 

[47coeman]

Mike
Glad you are moving forward with the frame you would be surprised what temp you can get away with spraying. Accelerators are amazing and once you get the fumes out you can warm up the space and away you go, need any help would more than happy, give me a holler...

 

[miker]

Thanks Skip. I think I have everything covered.

Weather report changed since Monday and now they are saying we are supposed to get rain starting tomorrow night.

Got call from the blaster and its ready to be picked up so I'm accelerating the plan.

 

[47coeman]

Go for it, will turn out just fine in your home spray booth... let us know how it turns out...

 

[miker]

Media blasted frame.

 

[miker]

And painted.

 

[Gusb]

Probably more info than you wanted.

Never too much - I'll take all I can get - Thanks!

Frame looks nice

 

[47coeman]

Mike
You made it before the rains, GREAT, your usual perfect job. Let the assembly begin.

 

[miker]

Mike
You made it before the rains, GREAT, your usual perfect job. Let the assembly begin.

Yeah, just in time.

I don't think its perfect, paint really show the flaws, but its good enough for this project and I'm ready for some assembly.

I may have to go back and shoot a little paint here and there inside the frame. Noticed I missed a few spots. Its not easy shooting paint inside the frame and getting it to go everywhere you want it.

 

[tornadoalleycruiser]

http://www.eastwood.com/undercoating-gun-and2-hoses-bottle.html
Cheap spray gun with a "hose" is what I used to do the inside of the frame..

 

[Gusb]

I've used those "DAUBER KITS, with wool tips on both ends, and light wire bodies that can easily be bent to fit your special needs..." that the POR15 people sell. Not perfect and they seem to fall apart easily but you can slop POR15, EP, etc. into some hard to reach areas.

 

[miker]

http://www.eastwood.com/undercoating-gun-and2-hoses-bottle.html
Cheap spray gun with a "hose" is what I used to do the inside of the frame..

That looks like it would have worked out pretty good.

I've used those "DAUBER KITS, with wool tips on both ends, and light wire bodies that can easily be bent to fit your special needs..." that the POR15 people sell. Not perfect and they seem to fall apart easily but you can slop POR15, EP, etc. into some hard to reach areas.

I think I'll go with something like this so I don't have to do anymore masking. Just touch up the spots I missed with the gun.

Thanks guys!

 

[miker]

started some assembly

 

[miker]

after the springs were mounted. flipped it upright and mounted the rear axle.

 

[whitey45]

Looks great Mike, how good does it feel to start assembly!!

 

[miker]

It does feel pretty good knowing I'm actually putting some things together for the final time.

 

[CycloSteve]

Now that is starting to look like a 45! Great work indeed. Mine is about nine months from this stage.



Steve