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In crowded, little Europe no less — good for them.
How painfulily ironic.
They must have had a focus group about all the measures and design features necessary to keep the US spec Land Cruiser range sub-par.
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That must be 30mpg imperial… so like 24 - 25 usa mpg.
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Do I recall that Toyota will be pairing the 2.4 diesel with a hybrid in some markets’ 250s?
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He called it a 2.8L 4cyl diesel in the video. Is there another diesel power train?
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Sorry, I meant 2.8 L — the 1GD-FTV. I thought in the global press release that Australia would get a mild 48V hybrid version. But I could be mistaken.
So it seems the 2.8l diesel hybrid motor coming out now will potentially increase fuel economy/range by 10% but at the expense of a reduced payload. 550 mile range would be handy in Australia but pretty unimportant in Europe. The hybrid in this case does not make a big impact on horsepower the way it does in the petrol 4 cyl version.
The 2.8l diesel is a great, proven powerplant with excellent reliability and torque on and off-road but it is a truck motor and its not something you would take to a track to run in a 0-60 speed competition. If one can only afford one car, it’s hard to expect that one car to run the performance gamut from Ford 450 Super Duty to Porsche 918. And if you can only afford one car and have to commute in it, my advice is to get a better job or a second job so you can afford to have two cars. If you buy a 250 in Europe (2.8l diesel) you can expect to enjoy decade’s of flawless use and improved range but be prepared to stay to the right lane on the Autobahn.
In a media statement issued this morning, Toyota Australia said the new “48-volt technology offers approximately 10 per cent improvement in fuel economy” and will debut on SR5 double-cab 4x4 and Rogue double-cab 4x4 models “in the first half of 2024.”
Toyota says the 48-volt technology will be paired with the 2.8-litre turbo diesel four-cylinder engine and six-speed automatic transmission and comprises “an additional, 48-volt battery, small electric motor-generator and other components.”
Toyota says the technology will also enable an idle stop/start system, as well as “reduced noise, vibration and harshness.
It is unclear what performance benefits will be delivered – if any – however the company says off-road ability and towing ability are not adversely impacted.
The extra weight of the technology, however, could lead to a reduced payload.
The 2.8l diesel is a great, proven powerplant with excellent reliability and torque on and off-road but it is a truck motor and its not something you would take to a track to run in a 0-60 speed competition. If one can only afford one car, it’s hard to expect that one car to run the performance gamut from Ford 450 Super Duty to Porsche 918. And if you can only afford one car and have to commute in it, my advice is to get a better job or a second job so you can afford to have two cars. If you buy a 250 in Europe (2.8l diesel) you can expect to enjoy decade’s of flawless use and improved range but be prepared to stay to the right lane on the Autobahn.
In a media statement issued this morning, Toyota Australia said the new “48-volt technology offers approximately 10 per cent improvement in fuel economy” and will debut on SR5 double-cab 4x4 and Rogue double-cab 4x4 models “in the first half of 2024.”
Toyota says the 48-volt technology will be paired with the 2.8-litre turbo diesel four-cylinder engine and six-speed automatic transmission and comprises “an additional, 48-volt battery, small electric motor-generator and other components.”
Toyota says the technology will also enable an idle stop/start system, as well as “reduced noise, vibration and harshness.
It is unclear what performance benefits will be delivered – if any – however the company says off-road ability and towing ability are not adversely impacted.
The extra weight of the technology, however, could lead to a reduced payload.
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The specs on the Toyota (builder) website still aren't updated.
www.toyota.com
2024 Toyota Land Cruiser Specifications | Toyota.com
Browse the 2024 ToyotaLand Cruiser specifications on the official Toyota website and discover the dynamic energy it brings to any adventure.
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In summary, the Land Cruiser is a truck that uses a truck motor.
Thirty years ago I used to frequent a track near Antibes. The other guys who raced their cars on that track either had a Defender, Range Rover or LC as a second car. They used to say that there were three automotive necessities in life: a car that goes very fast, a car that goes anywhere albeit slowly and a BMW flat twin motorcycle. I bought my first LC because I had the other two. I’ve been driving Landcruisers ever since. With a solid diesel engine a Toyota 4WD is a truck, a tank, a SUV, call it whatever you want, as long as it gets you back every time. The 2.8l diesel will do that.
You've convinced me. Time to go buy a BMW GS.
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I have tall people problems..at least I could just put my feet down and let the motorcycle drive itself clear.
You might say that this is off topic - I'm just trying to illustrate other off-roading vehicle options with similar range to the new, smaller, more heritage-y 2024 (i mean 2025) Toyota Land Cruiser.
I am 6'3" and drove the original 750 GS Bumblebee for 20 years and absolutely loved it. Traveled every square meter of the S. of France on that machine.Then I moved up to a 1250GS and that is what you should try. Amazing bikes. (And you can get custom saddles for the GS that raise the seating position.)
I always wanted to own the vintage BMW twins but I was too tall for them.
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From TFLoffroad. Rear axle flex looks impressive.
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But that front tho...
Supposedly more articulation than the GX460 with KDSS, despite how it looks.
pretty sure you can put that on any grade but if mine didn't come with it I would do the Prinsu Pro roof rack
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Courtesty of @LCQ (Actual weight - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/actual-weight.1339839/)
Curb weight at roughly 5,350 lbs
Curb weight at roughly 5,350 lbs
