rule303 said:
Wow, I've got every one stirred up on this one. Like I've said before, it wasn't flood damaged and it came from a reputable used car dealer. The dealership owner actually had been driving it for about a year. I have the carfax to prove it. He wouldn't risk his license just to sell one vehicle.
Flood damage wouldn't account for any of the problems I had anyway. You guys with the blinders on need to read more carefully. Most of my problems are VERY common problems with these vehicles. To assume if a Toyota fails it must be the owners fault is absurd. I just got a bad one thats all. The dealer I bought it from probably knew he had a bad one as well and got rid of it. Just like I did.
I paid top dollar for it and it looked and drove like new. Please someone, show me how "preventative maintenance" can prevent starter failure, TPS failure, alternator failure, cracked manifolds, etc. Must be some trick I don't know.
Its like the people who buy Bose speakers. They pay way too much for mediocre sound systems because the want to blindly rely on name brand recognition instead of actually learning about the REAL positives and negatives.
I've owned a lot of vehicles, foreign and domestic, and I've learned they all have advantages and disadvantages. And I don't base my buying decision on marketing or what mommy and daddy always bought. Or a lemon vehicle I bought 20 years ago.
I said the LC was a very nice vehicle. Just not perfect. So some of you need to get your panties out of a wad and get over it. The LC is not made by God. Don't get offended. I'd expect that on a Ford forum. The redneck kneejerk response to any criticism. The only reason I still post on this forum is so the blinder wearing crowd can't shout down the truth. Potential buyers have a right to know. I've owned probably 30 vehicles in my life and NEVER had a lemon. Never even had what I would call a problem vehicle. My luck ran out and it just happened to be the vaunted Land Cruiser. Bad odds, yes. But people win the lottery every day with odds a lot worse.
Is this guy still posting?
Look, I don;t own a 100 series and I am here to do research on them, but the 9 other Toyotas I have owned have all been very very reliable. Just because you were taken advantage of doesn;t mean you need to alienate the whole brand. How do you know that the car did not have previous damage? It's a fact, you don't. Carfax is not god either, and there have been many occasions where carfax did not know about an accident/damage. When you buy a car used it is just that, used. You should have bought the car new, then started with your bashing. If that was the case I would put more stock in your comments, but since I know that you feel betrayed by Toyota it is hard to accept your comments at face value. I would be angry as well for getting taken advantage of, and I would somehow try and hold the seller responsible since it is known that this vehicle typically does not have a history of severe failures. And as it was mentioned earlier that you mostly hear people complaining about things here because that is what this forum is for, for people to post their problems and for others to offer a solution that they have possible already completed. It seems that you have purchased a domestic car as the replacement. Was it new? If so, I'd bet it has more problems new in 100,000 miles then you cruiser did. But even if it did you probably wouldn;t admit it.
I have seen what happens to some of my friends that drive domestic. But not all of them have had bad experiences. I have also seen what happens to foreign manufacuters when the Americans start to have a lot of influence aka Mercedes. They went from quality to not so quality in a short time. But the gap between the domestics and the Japanese cars is narrowing right? That just means that the domestics are finally starting to get close to an acceptable level, but they still have a ways to go before they can achieve high build quality. Next time when buying a USED car I would focus on not getting taken advantage of. I mean paying a premium for a used car that is known to have so many problems, if it was that common how come you didn't know about them before?? Why didn;t you just buy it new?
Sorry, but I had to say something, I couldn;t let this guy bash all cruisers just because of the one
ABused cruiser he bought. I have had problems with a Jeep, a Buick, and a Chevy. So that mens that all American cars are junk by your rational right? I know that American cars don;t all suck, but with Toyotas you have fewer problems and this is well documented. Don;t get me wrong, I know Toyotas break too, but with much less frequency than others. Most people here know this, that is why I have 4 Toyotas all with high miles. Just my $0.02.
