100 vs range rover (2 Viewers)
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do a search. it's been dissected already.
SINCITY100 said:
Well said...
If you want an attractive image machine that you will lease from new and drive around town and on the occassional local trail, the RR is fine. I have driven them off highway and they are very impressive. The interior is first class. The ride quality is perfect.
The Discovery II that I owned for a very short period of time barely got me back across the border. That was enough for me.
macneill
Rollin’ on 33s
Chuck Norris uses Range Rovers to wipe his ass.
macneill said:
Nice! LOL
Yes, left wife and 3 kids stranded THREE times in six months. TPS, alternator, then starter contacts. Well once they were only stranded at home. Does that count? I got a lemon obviously.
rule303 said:
Rule, your LC, "based" on all of your past quotes was submerged and then towed out of a lake, then you got the opportunity to buy it as a used vehicle. If you buy another 100 series, check for dead fish inside the door panels before you buy
macneill
Rollin’ on 33s
SWUtah said:Rule, your LC, "based" on all of your past quotes was submerged and then towed out of a lake, then you got the opportunity to buy it as a used vehicle. If you buy another 100 series, check for dead fish inside the door panels before you buy
Yeah Rule, instead of knocking your ex-100, tell us how great your Eddie Bauer Expedition is.
So that's what that fishy smell was? Expediton has been flawless so far. No TPS issues, no electrical failures, no exploding differentials, rattling sunroofs, $2000 master cylinder failures, starter failures, exhaust manifold failures. Should I go on? Hey, I know they all break. I'm merely telling it like it is so people who read this forum have a fair UNBIASED idea of what they are getting into. If you buy a LC you will get a very nice riding and very capaple 4wd vehicle. You will not, in my opinion, get a unusually reliable used vehice that is cheap to own . These have quite a few well known design flaws that WILL cause failures at some point. Its not if, but when , you need to be concerned with. The parts for these are expensive, like a lot of foreign made vehicles. Prospective owners should be allowed to know this. Those of you propaganda ministers who want to silence talk of any negative aspect of these fine vehicles must have read Dr. Goebbles book. I liked the Land Cruiser. If I had gotten a good one I would still own one. But the fact is, if you buy a used one, sock away about $3000 for repairs because you are going to need it sooner or later. Its just the price you pay for a vehicle this capable.
Sidenote for you Japanese worshipers: The neighbor across the street apparently just replaced his two year old 4 runner V8 with a ( God forbid) American SUV.
Said it was constantly breaking and the dealers gave him so much grief he just wanted to be done with it. I don't remember him saying he drove it into a lake.
The Infiniti QX/Armada was rated the worst vehicle of 2005 recently. Go figure!
Sidenote for you Japanese worshipers: The neighbor across the street apparently just replaced his two year old 4 runner V8 with a ( God forbid) American SUV.
Said it was constantly breaking and the dealers gave him so much grief he just wanted to be done with it. I don't remember him saying he drove it into a lake.
The Infiniti QX/Armada was rated the worst vehicle of 2005 recently. Go figure!
macneill
Rollin’ on 33s
I'm beginning to think that's not cowbell I'm hearing but rather a broken record.
Actually it is a broken recording of a cowbell.
guy in my office has a 2005 Range Rover...one of them fancy ones.
other day I was pulling out of the lot and noticed his lights were on, figured the Rover would shut them off automaticly..............came back 2 hours latter........the lights were still on............but very dim.
I went and told him his lights were on..........he said "@&@&@&@&......for 70K you would think the damn thing would turn the lights off"
I mentioned my 2000 cruiser turns em off for ya
other day I was pulling out of the lot and noticed his lights were on, figured the Rover would shut them off automaticly..............came back 2 hours latter........the lights were still on............but very dim.
I went and told him his lights were on..........he said "@&@&@&@&......for 70K you would think the damn thing would turn the lights off"
I mentioned my 2000 cruiser turns em off for ya
I don't think anyone would argue Rovers suck on this forum.
how do you post pictures on this forum? I thought I remembered doing it before and it was easy. Now I can't
hoser
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Rule303, having so many problems, you are definitely the minority among the 100 owners. But if you keep posting in EVERY thread how crappy your 100 was, then a newbie reader would think many 100's are crap when they are not.rule303 said:
For a better representation than just one owner's experience, refer to this thread. Keep in mind the two people that gave it a "1" rating don't even own a 100 or at least they've never posted in the 100 section.
https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=67551&highlight=rate+reliability
I agree, most don't have all the problems I had . Didn't want to leave that impression. Most will have SOME of them though. My point though is that they do have problems and they are not the magical rides sprinkled with fairy dust that some people would have you believe.
They are machines and machines break, even if little people in Japan make them. Almost all of my problems have also occured in other LCs on this forum. Quite a few. I just want to warn others that, and don't take this in a bad way, sometimes Japanese reliablility gets over hyped to the point that people think they won't fail( me included). A prospective buyer could look at the reliablility rating post on this forum. Last time I looked about 6% I think rated the LC a 2 or lower.( not 100% sure of the exact figures). Factor in that quite a few 100s in that poll were new or nearly new and I'd bet 15+% would rate their reliability experiece pretty bad or at least dissapointing after 5 years. Toyota sets high expectations, and when they fail to meet them theres going to be some hard feelings. They have to take the bad with the good. The good news is they are no worse than most cars and probably better. Just don't buy one for the reliability alone. You'll be dissapointed. The guy who bought mine is a good example. I told him to have it checked out first. He just said, " I'm not worried, its a Toyota". Suit yourself dude.
Every problem my LC had except one is a common failure in these vehicles. I just happened to get all of them and in a short period of time. But I'll say again for the record, you won't find a better riding, handling, , more capable full size SUV that seats 7 than the 100 series. So go buy one. Just buy a warranty with it.
They are machines and machines break, even if little people in Japan make them. Almost all of my problems have also occured in other LCs on this forum. Quite a few. I just want to warn others that, and don't take this in a bad way, sometimes Japanese reliablility gets over hyped to the point that people think they won't fail( me included). A prospective buyer could look at the reliablility rating post on this forum. Last time I looked about 6% I think rated the LC a 2 or lower.( not 100% sure of the exact figures). Factor in that quite a few 100s in that poll were new or nearly new and I'd bet 15+% would rate their reliability experiece pretty bad or at least dissapointing after 5 years. Toyota sets high expectations, and when they fail to meet them theres going to be some hard feelings. They have to take the bad with the good. The good news is they are no worse than most cars and probably better. Just don't buy one for the reliability alone. You'll be dissapointed. The guy who bought mine is a good example. I told him to have it checked out first. He just said, " I'm not worried, its a Toyota". Suit yourself dude.
Every problem my LC had except one is a common failure in these vehicles. I just happened to get all of them and in a short period of time. But I'll say again for the record, you won't find a better riding, handling, , more capable full size SUV that seats 7 than the 100 series. So go buy one. Just buy a warranty with it.
rzpapp said:
That is a pretty safe statemanet considering they didn't start selling them until 1987
Cant argue with the reliability of a Yota but off road I would have to say they are pretty even, with the exception of the RR's that had the Borg Warner Transfer Box. Those sucked eggs in my opinion. I have had a 1969 Series Land Rover that was beat to heck and just kept running and running. I also had a 1988 RR and it was hands down the best out of the box 4x4 I have ever owned. I have had a 4rnner, Suzuki Samurai, Willys Overland Wagon, and now have a Defender 130. I f I did not have the 130 I would buy cheap 1987-1991 RR and use that as my daily driver. It is truley a disease.
rule303 said:
You need to get him on the board if at all possible. I'd love to see what the future holds for that cruiser. Just curious but what did the maintenance records on that 99 look like when you bought it? Also, what did the car lot that you bought this thing from say when you told them it had all these problems less than 6 months after your purchase? (easy to tell it didn't come from a pre-owned lot)
You buy used.....buyer beware. Just part of the risk one assumes when one purchases a second-hand vehicle. No doubt there are duds with any manufactured product. It's all about the law of probability. I will probably have fewer problems with a TLC than a Ford Exploder or Expedition, thus I'm willing to pay a premium for a TLC and roll the dice. Rule303 rolled the dice on a used TLC and got bit. Unfortunate experience and it will leave him with a soured opinion of the TLC product. Let's all move on.
