ok i know its short notice but some freinds and i are going to run log corral wash. my freind says we will most definatly be using the winches. i have never been on this run but i been told it is difficult trail.
1/11/09 log corral
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I would love to go, fun trail, but burned all of my "get out of work free" cards a couple of weeks ago.
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we are planning on meeting at the circle k nearest shea an 87. so far we have 78chevy short bed , cj5 with t18 alow gears an a winch , my 40 with a winch , 
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just remeber work tis better to have it than notI would love to go, fun trail, but burned all of my "get out of work free" cards a couple of weeks ago.
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sorry 7am 
you going?
you going?
I guess I missed you guys. Thanatoz and I ran Log Corral and then took FR 393 to the Sunflower area. No winches required.
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well the guys were there on time 7ish when we thought no one else was comming they came by my house cause the 
had some say in my departure time so we ended up behind you guys i think (working on pics)we went out below dam thats when chevy broke front axel:whoops:
had some say in my departure time so we ended up behind you guys i think (working on pics)we went out below dam thats when chevy broke front axel:whoops:
Sorry, I over slept when my alarm didn't go off. So ran out of the house in a hurry without my camera. The whole trail I kept complaining about it and for very good reason this time. Let me draw you a picture though....
Log Corral has seen some serious washout recently. We really had to pick lines carefully and dual lockers were required in numerous instances. Winches may not be a requirement, but are highly suggested for recovery in case you end up with a bad line. The rock garden at the begining is changelling, even for a truck as built as Spikes...but not undoable by any means obviously. Lesser built trucks will take damage, Spike even managed to 'adjust' his exhaust. Brush has really encroached on the trail with some significant sized branches that will do more then pin stripe your paint if you don't watch it. the road leading to the top of saddle with the...well...log corral, is extremely washed out and rutted now. The down hill on the lake side had some real tippy spots with lots of 'pucker' factor.
On a good note...FR 393 is basiclly a dirt road now. Most of the off camber and all the washout is gone. It is a dirt road passable to any high clearance even 2WD vehicle. They (not sure who 'they' is...but it's them) are doing some very unusual and very disturbing maintence on the high tension power lines that run along FR 393. We started down FR 393 and in very short order saw the oddest sights I've ever seen wheeling...even odder then a trail cat!!! Someone was loping off the tops of the saguaro catci. But just the tops, making them all approx. 12-15 ft high. But there were HUNDREDS of them that had this 'clearancing'. Then we say whole areas where the vegetation had been cut down to NUBS with what looked like a GIANT weed eater. Whole areas with nothing more then a few inches tall except for the saguaros. We quickly realized that all this destruction was only UNDER the high tension power lines. After several miles of this we discovered tracks...of a tracked vehicle that had been climbing some rather impressive inclines. We speculated and oggled and ran around in the desert picking up pieces of what used to be whole, LARGE trees reduced it kindling and no piece more then a few inches big. We were boggled. We just drove the trial in awe of the devestation. We later encountered a man in a Polaris Ranger (think 4x4 golf cart) and asked what he knew of it. He claimed that they had issues with the taller saguaros and trees creating a 'short' and arcing with then power lines. So had cut down all vegatation to a certain height and even elimanating some. I don't know what I think about this, but I'm telling you, no amount of "thrillcraft" could do the amount of damage that is being done under those power lines. At the end of the trail, we found several Ford SuperDuty Quad Cabs with all sorts of pruning equipment in a fenced and locked area, (the place I always thought of as a 'compound'). Going up the hill towards 87 off to the side of pavement, we found at least part of the tracked vehicle that was plowing through the desert. On a trailer we found what we can only term as a hydraulic powered trailer. It was a tracked (with 2' wide steel tracks) chassis that was sort of flatbedish but could be tipped upright for some reason. But there was no motor on the chassis, so we assume it has to have a 'drivetrain' on another vehicle. We did find evidence of core drilling, but no core driller. It was a very unusual day, odd in so many ways. I'm sorry we missed the rest of the guys, but was glad I went. I just really wish I had a camera with me.
Log Corral has seen some serious washout recently. We really had to pick lines carefully and dual lockers were required in numerous instances. Winches may not be a requirement, but are highly suggested for recovery in case you end up with a bad line. The rock garden at the begining is changelling, even for a truck as built as Spikes...but not undoable by any means obviously. Lesser built trucks will take damage, Spike even managed to 'adjust' his exhaust. Brush has really encroached on the trail with some significant sized branches that will do more then pin stripe your paint if you don't watch it. the road leading to the top of saddle with the...well...log corral, is extremely washed out and rutted now. The down hill on the lake side had some real tippy spots with lots of 'pucker' factor.
On a good note...FR 393 is basiclly a dirt road now. Most of the off camber and all the washout is gone. It is a dirt road passable to any high clearance even 2WD vehicle. They (not sure who 'they' is...but it's them) are doing some very unusual and very disturbing maintence on the high tension power lines that run along FR 393. We started down FR 393 and in very short order saw the oddest sights I've ever seen wheeling...even odder then a trail cat!!! Someone was loping off the tops of the saguaro catci. But just the tops, making them all approx. 12-15 ft high. But there were HUNDREDS of them that had this 'clearancing'. Then we say whole areas where the vegetation had been cut down to NUBS with what looked like a GIANT weed eater. Whole areas with nothing more then a few inches tall except for the saguaros. We quickly realized that all this destruction was only UNDER the high tension power lines. After several miles of this we discovered tracks...of a tracked vehicle that had been climbing some rather impressive inclines. We speculated and oggled and ran around in the desert picking up pieces of what used to be whole, LARGE trees reduced it kindling and no piece more then a few inches big. We were boggled. We just drove the trial in awe of the devestation. We later encountered a man in a Polaris Ranger (think 4x4 golf cart) and asked what he knew of it. He claimed that they had issues with the taller saguaros and trees creating a 'short' and arcing with then power lines. So had cut down all vegatation to a certain height and even elimanating some. I don't know what I think about this, but I'm telling you, no amount of "thrillcraft" could do the amount of damage that is being done under those power lines. At the end of the trail, we found several Ford SuperDuty Quad Cabs with all sorts of pruning equipment in a fenced and locked area, (the place I always thought of as a 'compound'). Going up the hill towards 87 off to the side of pavement, we found at least part of the tracked vehicle that was plowing through the desert. On a trailer we found what we can only term as a hydraulic powered trailer. It was a tracked (with 2' wide steel tracks) chassis that was sort of flatbedish but could be tipped upright for some reason. But there was no motor on the chassis, so we assume it has to have a 'drivetrain' on another vehicle. We did find evidence of core drilling, but no core driller. It was a very unusual day, odd in so many ways. I'm sorry we missed the rest of the guys, but was glad I went. I just really wish I had a camera with me.
well the guys were there on time 7ish when we thought no one else was comming they came by my house cause the
Were you able to cross the river down stream of the dam or did you stay on the east side of the river and come out by Ft. McDowell?
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we two were able to make it with out winching but if you miss your line you could have some problems
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so the chevy witch made it over every thing with out much trouble got stuck entering the river (bad line between two trees) when backing up the sandy embankment the u joints in the open knuckles shatterd and mister lead foot tore them up . in the chevys defence this truck has been wheeling a long time . a lil tug across the creek and we were on pavement
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Good to hear that everyone made it through .
But to hear about the desert destruction is disturbing.
I wonder who in the Forest Service (this is Tonto, right?) approved cutting off the top of the Saguaros...
.But to hear about the desert destruction is disturbing.
I wonder who in the Forest Service (this is Tonto, right?) approved cutting off the top of the Saguaros...
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they probibly have and old clause in some contract that lets them do such things , but i would like to kick the guy in the butt that did the study that said if we mow the dessert down it will save us money????? how can they justify this ??? and when you get down to brass tacks some how this saved them money ....how ??? the saguros are dissrupting the magnetic feild around the wires???Good to hear that everyone made it through
But to hear about the desert destruction is disturbing.
I wonder who in the Forest Service (this is Tonto, right?) approved cutting off the top of the Saguaros...
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