1/11/09 log corral

[justweldit]

hey went in camp creek tonight stayed a lil longer than planed(fuel pump went out......) we were right under the power lines witch are on top of caynon walls some one hundred feet up . the bushes at the bottom under the lines ya all mowed down unbeliveable.

 

[RHINO]

kinda surprised you all havent noticed this destruction before, its pretty common, and ive seen it all over the place on public roads, in particular all over north scottsdale, and even a few on the beeline.

i cant say for sure, but maybe it has something to do with flowering and keeping flying things away from the lines? and maybe you see it much more in remote areas is just the cost of moving them?

 

[Thanatoz]

kinda surprised you all havent noticed this destruction before, its pretty common, and ive seen it all over the place on public roads, in particular all over north scottsdale, and even a few on the beeline.

i cant say for sure, but maybe it has something to do with flowering and keeping flying things away from the lines? and maybe you see it much more in remote areas is just the cost of moving them?

I've been down FR393 a few times, all this devestation is new, within a few weeks, few months at the most. the sauguaros we saw hadn't even 'scabbed' over yet. I'd really like to get back there and take some pictures, but just haven't had the time. It's a looong drive from the Sunflower Mine side and my would kill me if I took her cruiser down Log Corral. I'd be up from coming across south of dam or up from Ft. McDowell, but have never been able to find a path across.

 

[RHINO]

i understand that particular stuff is new, i was pointing out that its not a new practice. i'm sure its a right of way issue and they prolly recently put up new lines or did some work from storm damage or something and thats why its been freshly cut, but the practice of cutting cacti and brush around power lines is not a new thing.

 

[friel01]

Forest Service

I spoke with some folks at APS, and after some checking around internally as to why this is happening, they said that because these are in the Tonto Forest, that it is actually the Forest Service that orders that APS will cut rather than relocate. Seems the forest service thinks that we users of the forest would prefer cut saquaros to removed saquaros. I guess if this doesnt kill them, that might actually be preferable. They said similar work is being done on BLM land, but those are being relocated.

 

[justweldit]

if i could get a medum one i would reloacate it my self

 

[-Spike-]

A follow up-

APS adjusts policy on plant removal

-Spike

 

[murf]

See the article in today Az repug on the front page of the Business Sunday section.

 

[Tools R Us]

"I don't have an answer that will resonate very well."

I understand the need to remove plants for "progress". In most cases like around highways, etc, they have been close to human encroachment, so are shot up, beat up. What gets me about this area is they are pristine, beautiful, specimens.

 

[Thanatoz]

Why don't they SELL the saguaros under the power lines. I know there are nurseries that pay good money to harvest saguaros for landscaping. Since the ban on them back in the 90s, it has become extremely difficult and expensive for these nurseries to get them.