24v advatages over 12v - any?
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BIG advantages when winching with 24V. The winch will pull longer, harder, faster... and last longer due to running much cooler under load.
A 24V 8274 side by side with a 12V 8274 demonstrates quite an impressive difference in overall speed and power for the 24Vunit - heat generated is also much less with 24V.
~John
LOL!!
then after you have finished that test run a 12V 8274 running on 24V power feed next to a 24V 8274 running on 24V feed and get out of the way... (3 different trucks, numerous long pulls and short hard pulls and it is still running strong)
24v advatages over 12v - any?
The fact of the matter is, 24volt systems are electrically superior overall.
The fact of the matter is, 24volt systems are electrically superior overall. .
I've been debating running my XD9000 in 24V format... but I worry that the bushings will scream!
I guess there's only one way to find out: lubricate it all really well and then hook it up.
How are the 12V motors holding up? Big windings should be able to take it. I guess all I'd need to do is put in some 24V solenoids.
explain this to me please,
if the problem areas are the same parts i.e. keeping 2 batteries charged the same, having to use a convertor to run accessories, alternator and starter issues, glow plug issues (basicly the same wiring harness through out) odd ball lighting parts....
how is the 24V system superior? Greg, you can chime in here as well...
if there is issues then it isn't superior, is it?
My experience regarding longevity of components in a 24volt system is different than some others, apparently. If you talk to electrical engineers, they will bear out what I'm saying and it is one of the very reasons why there are moves afoot to potentially move the automotive industry away from 12volt systems to a higher voltage system--possibly even 36volt systems. It's one of the reasons that power is transmitted in high voltage low amperage over long distances--there are less energy losses. I'm fully-aware that some folks don't prefer the 24volt systems. I'm fully-aware that some folks don't prefer diesel engines. But the fact remains that there is good reason why the NATO standard is 24volts for military equipment. I'm just sayin . . .
please stick to the facts, not what some engineer says. life is full of ideas on paper not working up to expectations in the field. (some engineer stamped the approval for the 2LTE head design and we know what a misake that was)
in theory you are right, 24V "should be" better but the facts show, in my experience with working with both these systems, that the same components fail with the same regularity whether 24V or 12V.
if this is the case then where is the superiority of one over the other, except of course you can get a 12V starter rebuilt for about 2/3rds the price of the same 24V version.
(please don't take this the wrong way, i am not insulting your intelligence, i just do not know how to word this properly...heading back to bed)
(some engineer stamped the approval for the 2LTE head design and we know what a misake that was)
The head is not the problem. The problem is a combination of the relatively poor cooling system and increased thermal stress from the turbo, and EGR and vulnerability to below-perfect maintenance. The 2LTE head design is not the 2LTE head design, it is the 2L2, 2LT2, 2LTE head design.
I get it. You don't prefer 24volts. Truly, I get it.
I agree. There is good reason that a high percentage of heavy duty equipment/vehicles are 24V. Battery balance is only properly managed by a balancer sized for that job. Any other method is usually a poor substitute for a balancer of the proper rating. Battery maintence is something that is necessary on any vehicle that is gonna be in the bush or otherwise away from help. Alternator/starter parts are usually readily available from any rebuilder that deals with heavy vehicle components, and how often do you need to rebuild these components? Starting in subzero weather is difficult for many reasons, but prolly better handled by a well-maintained 24V system. Bulbs are also readily available, at least in North American cities, possibly just gotta know where to go.
My .02 cents.