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We have one at our condo. Given the option for gas (which we don't there), there is no way that I would use anything that doesn't put out a very visible blue flame.
Why's that? Safety issues?
My scenario is this: new gas range with electric double oven ($1950) + $2650 (estimate) to run gas line to kitchen area OR induction cooktop with convection oven for $2400. Hmmmmm, not much of a question price wise.
That cost included upgrading the existing service, regulators, and running an obscene amount of pipe, because it would have to go outside the house. So the guy from A1 heating and air said, I wouldn't know.
Not sure what you are asking. There is no gas at the condo so electricity is the only option. It came with the range.
With regards to my preference for gas, that has nothing to do with safety. I like to cook and I like to be able to instantly control the amount of heat I'm working with. Gas is the only cooking medium that gives you that control.
I agree that $2400 +/- would put me off of gas as well but that does sound a bit high (but what do I know?). FWIW, I have no preference on the ovens, gas or electric convection. Some people that are really into baking swear by gas ovens but I've never had a problem with electric. It's just the electric ranges that I dislike using.
Upgrading the gas service or the electric service? I cannot imagine that you would need to "upgrade" the gas service for a gas range. Also I thought the gas pressure regulator normally came with the range and was located under the range (at least mine is). Running some pipe around a house shouldn't be that expensive.
Is the range on an outside wall or is it on an island? Outside wall should be cheap. Do you have to bore under a driveway to get from the gas meter to the location? I'm just having trouble with the $2400.
That explains it. I was just wondering if there had been an issue with an electric/induction range with you/your family due to not being able to 'see the blue flame'.
Well, that's what the guy told me, $2650. He said we didn't have a large enough supply line to run our water heater, furnace, fireplace, AND a gas cooktop. He said we'd need two additional regulators: one to run the existing stuff and a new one at the meter? It was the end of his day and I felt like he just kinda wanted to get out of here.
It's on an exterior wall. No driveway boring, that was all above ground, but on the outside of the house.
Thanks for your input, I really do appreciate it, as I don't know much about gas. If you tell me that guy was on crack and I should talk to someone else, I'll do it!!
With regards to needing to upgrade everything, hard for me to imagine that a gas range would be the straw that broke the camel's back, especially since they run on such low pressure. But I could be wrong.
Well, that's what the guy told me, $2650. He said we didn't have a large enough supply line to run our water heater, furnace, fireplace, AND a gas cooktop. He said we'd need two additional regulators: one to run the existing stuff and a new one at the meter?
Talk to someone else. As much as I dislike dealing with plumbers (nothing against plumbers per se; it's just that they seem to be perpetually in low supply and high demand), I think I would talk to one. You might also try an HVAC contractor.
With regards to needing to upgrade everything, hard for me to imagine that a gas range would be the straw that broke the camel's back, especially since they run on such low pressure. But I could be wrong.
What he said.
What is there currently available? We had 1/2" run to a fireplace, had that removed and ran either 3/4" or 1" to the fireplace (can't remember which off hand), and from there to a new gas range. There's a T put in place so we can add a gas furnace and gas water heater down the road. We have a crawl space, so it was a pretty simple job, and was only a couple hundred bucks. Only new line needed to be ran, nothing else (no regulators, etc).
As WarDamnEagle said, I don't understand why you'd need two (or any) regulators. There are regulators built into all gas devices, so each device already has it's own. Honestly it sounds like he's padding his bill to me.
Gas line is super easy to do. You can DIY in most places. You need a permit if replacing (at least here you do), but you can pull the permit yourself. The plumber who did ours would have charged double for pulling the permit, because it's a big hassle for him and his name is on it. So you might get a big discount if you deal with the paper work yourself. I was originally going to do it myself, but it ended up being so cheap to have a pro come in and do it, it wasn't worth it.
The two additional regulators and a new meter send up the red flag for me..
X3, get some other quotes..IMO, you will be happier with gas.
Copy, I think he said we have 3/4" line that reduces to 1/2" for the appliances.
He estimated 110' of pipe, with lots of threading and cutting to fit the corners. One of his hang-ups is anchoring the pipe to a concrete wall.
If were me, I would want it buried except where it comes vertically out of the ground.