Builds 1988 BJ74 “Number 1” (7 Viewers)
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Mine has 5 mm spacers, still enough thread for the lug nuts.
No issues so far.
The thin spacers are using the OEM lug nuts, thus eliminating the "hidden" bolts issue of uncertainty.
Only problem I can identify with them is that the wheel is no longer hub centered, and is centered only by the cone shaped lug nuts.
Never had any issues with that on any vehicle, as long as you check the lug nuts for tightening every once in a while.
Nice looking wheels and a very good solution.
I wish I could do the same if our regulator wasn't that strict with tire and wheel sizes, having to match OEM feagures.
By the way, these OEM 17X7.5'S are pretty strong.
Have been testing those to 1100 kg and are performing well after 70 kkm plus now.
I've used a 1/4" spacer with stock lug nuts on my 45 for about 25 years, no issues.
I’m running what I believe to be 1/4” spacers in the front, Charles had swapped out the lugs with longer ones
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Is it reinforced with the roll cage? I feel like the FRP alone would not handle tent weight, but the roll cage could bear some load if that could be figured out.
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From factory, it only has the B pillar hoop that supports the frp top / roof. The roll cage doesn't.
If I look closely at the pics, I see the rollcage is stand alone and not attached to the frp top, still.
I'm with your concern. No idea how, but apparently they managed to put all weight on the remainders of the FRP-Top.
But the the tent only adds the canvas and the subframe. The roof is there anyways. That might be less weight than an ordinary roof rack plus a full roof tent, which I also saw on FRPs already.
Cheers Ralf
From factory, it only has the B pillar hoop that supports the frp top / roof. The roll cage doesn't.
If I look closely at the pics, I see the rollcage is stand alone and not attached to the frp top, still.
I'm with your concern. No idea how, but apparently they managed to put all weight on the remainders of the FRP-Top.
But the the tent only adds the canvas and the subframe. The roof is there anyways. That might be less weight than an ordinary roof rack plus a full roof tent, which I also saw on FRPs already.
Cheers Ralf
Yeah, I didn't think it was reinforced. In a dream world, I'd love a reinforced, metal version of the FRP top so we could have it be reinforced and more load-bearing. 73's are the perfect size for a compact 4x4 setup, to include a RTT, but it seems like the only other real options are either to fab a full exoskeleton or cross your appendages that the rain rails and plastic hold up.
The one you linked looks heavy. Certainly not a feather-weight setup...
The one you linked looks heavy. Certainly not a feather-weight setup...
The FRP top on my BJ73 is quite strong. I believe there is significant plywood sandwiched between the layers of glass. If the load is spread out accross the roof and not isolated on small spots it is quite strong. IE my full length roof rack is bolted to unistrut channel which is bolted and bonded to the roof spreading the load out evenly. 300-400lb on my roof and nothing cracks/pops or flexes extensively.
Been quite a while since I looked closely at an FRP top, but I'll put in my 2¢: from what I can tell vertical loading with that setup would be just fine, the walls of the FRP top should be able to easily support that weight in a driving situation. Not entirely sure about side loading (vehicle sway, jolts on bumpy roads, etc) but the thickness of the FRP left above the rear doors should give good strength for that as well. I am a fan of overbuilding stuff thought, so to be safe I would probably put some gussets in that tie the pop top in with the rear FRP pillars, or some plates that attach to the roll bar to add stiffness.
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I agree the top is stronger than most people think. Putting all the weight on the rails is not good. It’s only like a 1” strip of metal sandwiched between the FRP
Just looking at my extended top, that edge over the windows before it goes horizontal is pretty stout. Spread out over the whole top it will support a lot.
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Yeah I’m not sure if there is plywood in between on the top part. I don’t think there is but I could be wrong.
Spreading out the load is key. I stood on my roof rack. I’m 225. I’ve at least had 270 total up there.
I think building a tent into the top would be no problem if built like this guy did.
Hello,
In both soft top and FRP top 70 Series, the B-pillar is intended to protect the occupants in the event of a rollover. In fact, it surrounds the tub in an arch.
If I remember correctly, a 'MUD member (from Norway I think) experienced a rollover with his 73 Series and the pillar saved him. It needed replacement, though.
It is possible to remove this pillar. However, the manual recommends not to do it,
Some 73 Series have an additional roll bar. However, this bar bolts to the pillar. Extra protection, I reckon.
Regarding the factory FRP top, it is beefier than it looks, as is the case with 70 Series components.
Juan
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I don’t have words. I’m sorry it’s not tech related but I owe my cruiser friend this. Feel free to skip. I’ve wanted to update people but haven’t been able to. I didn’t realize how hard just this post would be. I didn’t realize how close we could be to our pets…friends.
I lost my best friend a little bit better a week ago.
Always ready to ride
His favorite part of riding in the cruiser.
He would have been 5 earlier this week.
Two weeks ago he started limping. After a few days we took him in. We were shocked to find out osteosarcoma, or bone cancer. There is no cure, and not really any good options especially for a 140lb dog. It’s a very painful, no cure and usually a maximum of 1 year after diagnosis. It spreads very quickly to the lungs.
He was one misstep, step down, or taking off to run away from a full fractured leg and immense pain. No fix and a rush to euthanize. I couldn’t deal with him being in pain with any possibility of a giant dog in terrible pain.
We made the tough decision to put him down on the 23rd. Some people here and other places basically said any attempts to prolong his life, were just for my benefit at this point.
It’s been devastating for me. He was fully attached to me. He was the most gentle dog you have ever met and loved everyone. I’m very thankful I got to work from home the last 1.5 years as we basically got to spend all day together.
At the vet during the euthanasia appointment it started to rain. It was a sunny day and not supposed to rain. After that hard time we were driving home and this appeared basically above where our house is in the country. Sorry if I’m cheesy or reaching on things.
Finn was a loved member of the family, my best friend and fellow lover of the cruiser. I have tons of photos and memories of us riding in it, working on it or just hanging out in it. He’s been around just as long as my cruiser so it’s been tough to even update this. I could go on and on, but again this is a Land Cruiser message board.
Big shoutout to my friend @PabloCruise who has listened to me struggle and cry and keeps continuing to check in on me. Mud is a good family.
I’ve had other pets, and had to put them to sleep, but I’ve never had one I was this close too.
I miss you my friend.
I lost my best friend a little bit better a week ago.
Always ready to ride
His favorite part of riding in the cruiser.
He would have been 5 earlier this week.
Two weeks ago he started limping. After a few days we took him in. We were shocked to find out osteosarcoma, or bone cancer. There is no cure, and not really any good options especially for a 140lb dog. It’s a very painful, no cure and usually a maximum of 1 year after diagnosis. It spreads very quickly to the lungs.
He was one misstep, step down, or taking off to run away from a full fractured leg and immense pain. No fix and a rush to euthanize. I couldn’t deal with him being in pain with any possibility of a giant dog in terrible pain.
We made the tough decision to put him down on the 23rd. Some people here and other places basically said any attempts to prolong his life, were just for my benefit at this point.
It’s been devastating for me. He was fully attached to me. He was the most gentle dog you have ever met and loved everyone. I’m very thankful I got to work from home the last 1.5 years as we basically got to spend all day together.
At the vet during the euthanasia appointment it started to rain. It was a sunny day and not supposed to rain. After that hard time we were driving home and this appeared basically above where our house is in the country. Sorry if I’m cheesy or reaching on things.
Finn was a loved member of the family, my best friend and fellow lover of the cruiser. I have tons of photos and memories of us riding in it, working on it or just hanging out in it. He’s been around just as long as my cruiser so it’s been tough to even update this. I could go on and on, but again this is a Land Cruiser message board.
Big shoutout to my friend @PabloCruise who has listened to me struggle and cry and keeps continuing to check in on me. Mud is a good family.
I’ve had other pets, and had to put them to sleep, but I’ve never had one I was this close too.
I miss you my friend.
