clutch for AA bellhousing (1 Viewer)

[cody]

hey all, i am installing an AA bellhousing conversion from my 4 speed, to a sbc. the clutch, pressure plate and flywheel that they offer is way to expensive for me, so i was wondering if anyone knows what i can buy from napa or wherever that will work. they say i need a 168 tooth flywheel, so if i buy a 168 tooth chevy flywheel for my engine will the pilot bearing fit my 4 speed? also do i have to buy a toyota pressure plate or will something else fit the spline on my 4 speed? any info would be great, also if anyone gets a chance to help out with my post from yesterday, i would greatly appreciate that also. thanks in advance...

 

[hammerhead]

When I bought my '74 40 it already had a SBC, AA bellhousing and 4spd trans. I drove for a couple years with no trouble whatsoever. It wasn't til I replaced my motor that I found out it was running the stock Chevy truck clutch, pressure plate, and pilot. Never did use any of that expensive stuff they recommended. Now I'm running SM465 so I still use chevy truck parts. Cheap and you can get them anywhere.

 

[pbgbottle]

i have had great success with this clutch combo got this info about napa part #'s on this forum . but me being in canada i don't always get to napa . and i use the same stuf accept a different part # for the pressure plate
THE PRESSURE PLATE SHOULD HAVE LOW PROFILE FINGERS LIKE IN THE PIC BELOW

NAPA
54-62 235 Eng. w/11" Cl. H.D. F.D. 11-10-1 1/8 (standard) MU5473-1B $149.01
(high performance) HP5505-1 $329.16
(multi friction) MF5505-1 $294.36

more engine info same clutch

66-78 250 Eng.
55-56 265 Eng.
57-67 283 Eng.
67-68 292 Eng.
63-66 292 Eng.
62-66 283 Eng.
68-73 307 Eng. w/Flat Dph. Cover
54-62 235 Eng.
1960 Chevrolet El Camino

the part # i use for pressure plate Part#: CA5473

This clutch cover has a diameter of 11.0 inches.

Part#: CA5473
Part Type: CLUTCH COVER (PRESS PLATE)
Total Number of Applications: 834
CHECKER (11) 1969-1978
MARATHON (11) 1969-1978
1978 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1977 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1976 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1975 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1974 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1973 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1972 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1969 V8-327ci 5.4L 2 BBL


CHEVROLET (479) 1965-1979
BELAIR (12) 1965-1971
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CAB CAA
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CCK CCM
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin BA BB BD BG
1968 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CM CN CQ CR
1968 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DK DO DP DS
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin FA FV FZ GQ
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin GS GU GF GO
1966 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

BISCAYNE (12) 1965-1971
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CAB CAA
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CCK CCZ
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin BA BB BD BG
1968 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CM CN CQ CR
1968 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DK DO DP DS
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin FA FV FZ GQ
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin GS GU GF GO
1966 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

BLAZER (8) 1969-1971
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin C
1971 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin H
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin L
1970 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin B
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin N
1970 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin A
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L CARB Vin P
1969 V8-307ci 5.0L CARB Vin E

BLAZER 4x2 (10) 1972-1979
1979 L6-250ci 4.1L 2 BBL Vin D
1978 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1977 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1976 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1975 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1974 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1973 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1973 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin X
1972 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1972 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F

BLAZER 4x4 (10) 1972-1979
1979 L6-250ci 4.1L 2 BBL Vin D
1978 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1977 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1976 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1975 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1974 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1973 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1973 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin X
1972 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1972 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F

CAMARO (11) 1967-1973
1973 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F
1972 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin AA AB
1971 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin CA CC
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CCK CCZ
1970 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin CND
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin BB BD
1969 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DA DE DC DD
1968 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CM CN CQ CR
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin LN LQ
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin MD MJ

CAPRICE (9) 1965-1969
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L CARB
1968 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DK DO DP DS
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin GS GU GF GO
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L CARB
1966 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

CAPRICE WAGON (2) 1966-1966
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

CHEVELLE (16) 1965-1973
1973 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F
1972 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin AA AB
1971 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin CCA
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin AA AB
1970 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin CCA
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin BB BD
1969 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DA DE DC DD
1968 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CM CN CQ CR
1968 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DA DE
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CM CN CQ CR
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin DA DE
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

CHEVY II (3) 1967-1968
1968 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CM CN CQ CR
1968 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DA DB MB MC
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin PV PC PX PI

CHEVY II NOVA (6) 1965-1967
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin PV PC PX PI
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin PD PL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

EL CAMINO (17) 1965-1973
1973 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F
1972 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin C
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin L
1971 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin P
1970 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin B
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin N
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin P
1969 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin U
1968 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin P
1968 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin W
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin P
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin DA DB
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

IMPALA (12) 1965-1971
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CAB CAA
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CCK CCZ
1969 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin BA BB BD BG
1968 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin CM CN CQ CR
1968 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin DK DO DP DS
1967 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin FA FV FZ GQ
1967 V8-283ci 4.6L 2 BBL Vin GS GU GF GO
1966 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

MALIBU (4) 1965-1966
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1966 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 2 BBL
1965 V8-283ci 4.7L 4 BBL

GMC (344) 1965-1979
C1000 1/2 TON PICKUP (1) 1965-1965
1965 L6-230ci 3.8L 1 BBL

C1000 SUBURBAN (2) 1965-1966
1966 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1965 L6-230ci 3.8L 1 BBL

C1500 3/4 TON PICKUP (1) 1965-1965
1965 L6-230ci 3.8L 1 BBL

G1000 HANDI-VAN 1/2 TON (2) 1965-1966
1966 L6-230ci 3.8L 1 BBL
1965 L6-230ci 3.8L 1 BBL

JIMMY (17) 1970-1979
1979 L6-250ci 4.1L 2 BBL Vin D
1978 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1977 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1976 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin D
1975 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1974 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1973 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin Q
1972 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin F
1972 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin L
1971 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin P
1971 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin C
1971 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin H
1970 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin B
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L 1 BBL Vin N
1970 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin A
1970 L6-250ci 4.1L CARB Vin S

JIMMY (FULL SIZE) (1) 1973-1973
1973 V8-307ci 5.0L 2 BBL Vin X

and the pressure plate has to have low profile fingers like in the pic this is the pressure plate i use compatible with toy slave

 

[dgangle]

The CF part numbers are as follows:
disk: 383735
PP: CF165473S
These are for an internally ballanced pre-86 350 with a 168 tooth pressure plate.

 

[pbgbottle]

buy your 168 tooth flywheel . or get one from the junkyard . and get it resurfaced . get a chevy pilot bearing it will work on the 4spd .toyota tranny . i found during my conversion to not push the pilot bushing all the way in .leave it sticking out a bit to fully support the tranny tip . and buy this clutch combo pack from napa
54-62 235 Eng. w/11" Cl. H.D. F.D. 11-10-1 1/8 (standard) MU5473-1B $149.01
it should work . but make sure the preasure plate looks similar to the one in the pic

i know from experience that this preassure plate works # CA5473 ,well it worked for me . same one in pic

 

[dgangle]

"...and buy this clutch combo pack from napa 54-62 235 Eng. w/11" Cl. H.D. F.D. 11-10-1 1/8 (standard) MU5473-1B $149.01 it should work . but make sure the preasure plate looks similar to the one in the pic. i know from experience that this preassure plate works # CA5473 ,well it worked for me . same one in pic"

Great info. I am confused about your post and hence my statements about the Centerforce.

Combo pack. Do you mean this is a disc and pressure plate sold together? What is the part number, MU5473-1B?

Is the CA5473 a pressure plate only? I was unable to find either of thses Napaonline.com

 

[1Fine40]

The number quoted by pbgbottle, CA5473, is the exact number on the pressure plate that Centerforce supplies....it is just painted over! (LUK makes them BTW) It isn't clear if the FD that comes with that PP will work. And of course, I think you have to get the special (I think it is special?) TO bearing that fits on the toyota release arm. YMMV.

Cheers!

 

[pbgbottle]

here are the part #'s i used for my setup and i just use the toyota t.o. bearing on this preasure plate ,with toyota fork . i buy these at lordco in canada
preasure plate FENCO CA5473
disc FENCO CA3348 11 inch x 1 1/8
TOY T.O. BEARING #

 

[cody]

hey guys, thanks for all the info. i tried to cross ref. these part numbers at napa, autozone, and kragen...no joy....no one really stocks fenco either....the engine im puttin in is a 305 by the way, not sure what year. just in case you were wondering. ill try to cross these part numbers on the net..any more ideas, im all open.thanks again

 

[pbgbottle]

i did a search on napa and there # for the pressure plate is

NCLCA5473 start there at napa they should be able to find the rest for ya
maybe this for disc
NCL
RCF606

that list above is all the vehicles that use that pressure plate start by looking for a clutch for one of the other vehicles

here it is napa clutch kit #
NCL
655473B

 

[pbgbottle]

here it napa clutch disc and low profile pressure plate


NCL
655473B

 

[cody]

thanks pbgbottle, this should work with the 305 right? i think the flywheel is probably the same as a 350??? thanks again

 

[pbgbottle]

this should work with the 168 tooth flywheel

 

[JRFJ4-]

V8 Fj40

You need to know what model block you have when you buy your flywheel.
Pre 86 blocks were two piece rear main seals. 86 and up are one piece rear main. The one piece rear mains engines are not completely internally balanced, so it is a different flywheel. When I did mine, I think flywheels were about $70.00 from Autozone/Advance auto parts.

86 and up heads have centerbolt valve covers also. If they are the original heads.

The 168 tooth flywheel will accept a 11" clutch.

I took my flywheel and toyota clutch disc to the local parts store and he got me a pressure plate and clutch disc for about $130.00.

I can probably get part numbers off mine. It is all tore apart in my shop.



J.R.

 

[cody]

thanks J.R. if you can get the numbers that would be great. im pretty sure its a pre 86 block, ill check today to make sure. thanks again.

 

[fj40taz]

i am going thru this same thing right now...........

 

[shelfboy1]

i did my 69 and used a clutch from an 85 chevy 2wd pickup with hydraulic clutch and the stock toyota to bearing .thats just me ,i used to have the chevy flywheels redrilled and tapped and use the stock diafram clutch that toyota used and they worked well for many years .the 85 truck clutch seems to be short throw and works well .

 

[4x4 Station Wagon]

I pretty much followed PBGBOTTLE and it seems to have worked for me. I have a few pictures and part numbers on my build thread. I apolagize I do not remember what page but it has got to be atleast half way throug to save you time searching.

 

[bikersmurf]

If you use a luk 11" low diaphragm clutch to fit a 1970's van with a four speed, a 2F throw out bearing, and a chevrolet pilot bearing not fully seated it will be more than ample for your 305.
Don't try to save money by using a remanufactured clutch. I made that mistake once with my stock F motor and had to redo the clutch job within 5000 miles because a small spring broke in the clutch. It was a $300 mistake.