bloc
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Exactly.
YOHB? Incredible ‘21 LC build at TAV in Albuquerque
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turbo8
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The presenter called it "the long travel for the 200 series" which I believe is the TC stock length Tundra arms. This will get you around 11" of wheel travel.
Unless you put in bump stop spacers that will limit most of the travel.
Unless you put in bump stop spacers that will limit most of the travel.
What’s the advantage over these vs. Tundra control arms? I am considering a tundra conversion to fit 295/70r18 without issues of hitting sway bar and kdss.
turbo8
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Removes lower ball joint and replaces with uniball
Probably stronger
Maybe a little bit more ground clearance.
Really don't think they are worth $3k, as the stock Tundra arms/ball joints don't fail (to my knowledge).
The squeaks you'll inevitably get from the bushings are free though!
Truth.
turbo8
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To stop the squeaks, look at my previous picture and look at the amount of grease used on the pivot...
Cool, I’ll go the Tundra arm route. $3k is a strep price vs, Tundra swap.
Any reason to avoid doing a Tundra swap? Or are we talking more positives.
Speaking from experience, that grease will eventually lose the battle. And probably within ~30k miles. Yes, even with reapplication following TC specs.
bloc
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I seem to remember not much thread engagement between the tie rod and tie rod end.. but I think they’ve figured out a solution for that.
Also the sway bar link angles aren’t ideal..
Still, lots of people doing it with good results.
CharlieS
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Are there alternate inner or outer tie rods that work better/have more thread engagement. Like maybe the Tundra tie rod parts?
Thanks for the info. I’ll have to reach out to a couple shops who have actually done them. May check with Eric at Ed Martin as well.
Agreed, for a stateside rig it is super nice.
I asked the guys at TAV if they will offer the inner fender liner/fillers and the TC LCA KDSS brackets for sale to the public and they flat out said no. They claim they are hand fit to each vehicle (not sure how that applies to a bracket?) and they will be an in-shop purchase only. I think that's their target customer, sell them on a certain stage/level of build, pick your wheels/tires, and then drop it off for a few weeks.
I had him quote me a build on the 200 a year or so back very similar to the first white 200 on 35's they did, and it came out to around $25K lol. If you have the extra coin and no time, desire or ability to do it yourself then they might be the shop for you. For most I fear he's over priced. This is their third 200 build from what I recall seeing posted.
bloc
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That’s what people seem to have been working on. I haven’t paid a ton of attention but vaguely remember someone finding an aftermarket part lately that worked.
Or, I could be thinking of something else entirely. Who knows with my brain…
Well that’s a bummer. I am certainly not shipping my rig to NM. I have a local shop that does custom work buy was curious about the custom kdss bracket. Oh well
nwfl4runner
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I don't have any personal experience with TAV but I did consider them for some work on my 4Runner once. As with you, their quote was well on the high side. I know they do a lot of good builds for YT and IG and recommended them to a buddy of mine in ABQ. He has a Jeep Gladiator he wanted some work done on. Basically a full build with an Alu-Cab Canopy Camper, interior build out, drivetrain work, suspension, armor etc etc the whole 9 yards. I guesstimate that my buddy had a quote of $60-$70k for parts and labor and paid a handsome deposit. That was a year ago and ZERO work has been done. A lot of "supply chain" excuses, stringing along, and saying certain parts are in and then saying they actually didn't have them and can't/won't work on it until everything is there. Basically getting a lot of runaround which is odd given how much IG they do and how they focus on celebrity builds. At this point I can't and won't recommend TAV given my friends experience with them.
I hate to say that this is another bro-truck instagram build just throwing parts at things. Kills me to see so much thrown at the suspension but then a giant bump stop spacer. Two steps forward, two steps back.
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If that's the couple I'm thinking of, their exploits in Congo were incredible! Passing some guy waiting for MONTHS on a broken down rig for parts their riders went to retrieve, hiring locals who would appear from the bush to help dig them out and then disappearing back into the bush after the digging was done. Crazy stuff. I think they were Belgian or German IIRC.For sure. I know Expeditions 7 ran into a lot of that as well. I guess the question is how much of that do you seek out when traveling solo vs just taking the paved highways and getting to your destination? Camel Trophy had a lot of support and I think they actively looked for difficult routes. I suppose that's a whole other discussion for a site like Expedition Portal.
I remember reading a story about a couple in a troopy doing a solo trip through the Congo and it was some of the craziest stuff I've ever seen. Washouts, broken down ferries, staying at remote villages for days waiting on parts, bush repairs, hiring locals to dig paths and push their cruiser through the jungle.. legit "overland" stuff - incredible read if you have the time:
Democratic Republic of Congo: Lubumbashi to Kinshasa
Congo Zaire Featuring Josephine: Frederik: and our trusty steed: [/quote]
Makes sense! That Earthroamer would stick out like a sore thumb. 5x bigger than any taxi, van, truck etc you'd see on the road in most countries.
I've been in places where just having a digital camera made me a target.. not that the countries were that unsafe but once you get past the tourist sections it's a different vibe.
