Windshield - Am I being BS'd? (3 Viewers)

[Old Nick]

This is what I'm up against right now.

It's going to cost me about $2500 to have a body shop pull the windshield, do metal repairs, and install a new windshield with me supplying the gasket and any other parts and me pulling the headliner and interior trim prior to dropping off. They claim it will take about 10 days for the work.

The PO had the windshield replaced a couple times and the installers cut the paint all the way around the windshield causing the rust I have now. They also didn't seal it properly, as I have leaks in the bottom corners. Every time it rains or k go through a carwash, I have a huge leak at the upper left corner of the windshield and when I turn left hard, it runs right into my crotch.

I have gone to 3 different glass shops and they all refuse to touch my truck because I'm going to hold their feet to the fire about installing it properly.

Most glass shops get snooty with me and tell me they've been doing this for 20 years and know how to do glass. Then I remind them this is a 30 year old truck and was different even then on how it had to be installed.

That is a real bummer to read. After years of looking (and after doing glass work myself), I found a dude (one man show) who came out to my shop to install the sliding quarter glass in my wife's 80. He followed the FSM as I acted as his helper. Maybe, in your circle of friends, etc., if you put feelers out, someone know a dude like that.

 

[BTLSHP]

That is a real bummer to read. After years of looking (and after doing glass work myself), I found a dude (one man show) who came out to my shop to install the sliding quarter glass in my wife's 80. He followed the FSM as I acted as his helper. Maybe, in your circle of friends, etc., if you put feelers out, someone know a dude like that.

Yes, my background is bean counting and I am a bit of an oddity in my community. I got into this hobby because a neighbor growing up was a cool NTSB guy who reassembled crashed commercial aircraft. He let me help him build a piper cub in his garage. Cool guy.

I did get a name today from the DC Landcruiser sub forum but I may do it myself. It is the process of removing what is there that gives me pause for the moment

 

[BILT4ME]

That is a real bummer to read. After years of looking (and after doing glass work myself), I found a dude (one man show) who came out to my shop to install the sliding quarter glass in my wife's 80. He followed the FSM as I acted as his helper. Maybe, in your circle of friends, etc., if you put feelers out, someone know a dude like that.

That's me in my circle.....

I'm not afraid of doing anything, it's just scheduling time and a helper on my DD.

 

[Old Nick]

Yes, my background is bean counting and I am a bit of an oddity in my community. I got into this hobby because a neighbor growing up was a cool NTSB guy who reassembled crashed commercial aircraft. He let me help him build a piper cub in his garage. Cool guy.

I did get a name today from the DC Landcruiser sub forum but I may do it myself. It is the process of removing what is there that gives me pause for the moment

Since you'll be putting a new gasket on the windscreen, getting the old one out is cake. Just cut the gasket and slowly start to pull it out.

We (my wife and I) did this a short while ago. I was outside of the rig, cutting and pulling on the gasket. My wife applied pressure from the interior side. It came out neatly. Then, you can clean up the old adhesive and check if you'll need any rust repair, etc. As @BILT4ME for pointed out... be careful not to penetrate your paint as you cut the gasket.

 

[Old Nick]

That's me in my circle.....

I'm not afraid of doing anything, it's just scheduling time and a helper on my DD.

I gotcha. If I was around, I'd help.

 

[BTLSHP]

Okay, Sorry but I am starting with sunroof for no better reason than I have what I think I need. Trim came off without breaking fortunately. I am going with the @jonheld method of poultry twine instead of bike tube.

I assume the "gap" I am to fill is between the metal an the seal below. Also at one corner the rubber bit is starting to peel. Can I use something like crazy glue or E6000?

I am washing pretty gently with a shoe polishing brush an the water is coming out black!

Thanks.

 

[Malleus]

This is what I'm up against right now.

It's going to cost me about $2500 to have a body shop pull the windshield, do metal repairs, and install a new windshield with me supplying the gasket and any other parts and me pulling the headliner and interior trim prior to dropping off. They claim it will take about 10 days for the work.

The PO had the windshield replaced a couple times and the installers cut the paint all the way around the windshield causing the rust I have now. They also didn't seal it properly, as I have leaks in the bottom corners. Every time it rains or k go through a carwash, I have a huge leak at the upper left corner of the windshield and when I turn left hard, it runs right into my crotch.

I have gone to 3 different glass shops and they all refuse to touch my truck because I'm going to hold their feet to the fire about installing it properly.

Most glass shops get snooty with me and tell me they've been doing this for 20 years and know how to do glass. Then I remind them this is a 30 year old truck and was different even then on how it had to be installed.

This is why I gave up on almost all the local glass shops. I say almost, because there's one guy here who has been installing glass for the Toyota and Lexus dealerships for over 20 years. My problem is that he's getting old and told me the last time we worked together that he was going to retire. So, all future repairs are on me.

 

[Malleus]

Okay, Sorry but I am starting with sunroof for no better reason than I have what I think I need. Trim came off without breaking fortunately. I am going with the @jonheld method of poultry twine instead of bike tube.

I assume the "gap" I am to fill is between the metal an the seal below. Also at one corner the rubber bit is starting to peel. Can I use something like crazy glue or E6000?

I am washing pretty gently with a shoe polishing brush an the water is coming out black!

Thanks.

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I'll defer to others on "fixing" a sunroof; I've always replaced them. The 80 series sunroofs are NLA, but the 70 series sunroofs aren't, and they are the same (updated) sunroof.

I have two in stock awaiting installation.

You've accomplished far more difficult repairs on an 80 thus far. I'm pretty confident you can handle this.

 

[BILT4ME]

I'll defer to others on "fixing" a sunroof; I've always replaced them. The 80 series sunroofs are NLA, but the 70 series sunroofs aren't, and they are the same (updated) sunroof.

I have two in stock awaiting installation.

You've accomplished far more difficult repairs on an 80 thus far. I'm pretty confident you can handle this.

Is a 70 series complete cassette sunroof plug and play to mate to a 95-97 80 series?
If so, please provide part number.....

 

[Kernal]

Ditto: is the whole sunroof assembly identical (70 Series to 80 Series), or is it that it can be made to fit,
and/or is the glass/gasket assembly identical to the 80 Series ie: swap out the 80 Series glass with the 70 Series glass?

 

[BTLSHP]

Ok, sunroof is back in. The edge cleaned up nicely and the fit seems pretty snug. The drains are clear and the little cable covers seem flat and set to divert water into the pan.

As to the windshield, there is zero sealant on the window or body side of the molding. I guess these leaves open the possibility that there is sealant on the body lip. I am going to order sealant and a new gasket. I will be a tad annoyed if we find no sealant at all.

 

[Malleus]

If by cassette, you mean the entire sunroof subassembly, that doesn't have a part number. It's a collection of parts.

The sunroof glass is 63201-60024. @SNLC posted in a couple of years ago in one of his builds. Post #467

You won't find it listed on the Toyota EPC sites for US domestic parts. Drop Dave Stedman an email if you want one.

 

[BTLSHP]

Ok, Tuesday a riding buddy will help with the windshield at his shop. But, my sunroof bonus is that the string in the sunroof seal appears to have cured a wind noise that I was worried would drive me bonkers over 1,700 miles to Denver. I had been chasing sources in the door to no avail.

 

[BTLSHP]

Windshield is in, I was asked not to take photos inside the shop (?). That said, I see why with the correct tools an unsealed windshield is easy to manipulate. We used Betaseal418 plus a primer and left it inside for the night. Cost all of $100 plus pizza for all.

Sunroof is fine per a car wash. CEL 26 came on and then went off (grr).

I have loaded in chains and the original mats and am organizing tools and spare for the delivery to a lucky kid.

 

[CharlieS]

Maybe clean, dry, and add dielectric grease to the o2 sensor connectors?

 

[BTLSHP]

Maybe clean, dry, and add dielectric grease to the o2 sensor connectors?

Yes, I thought I had done this successfully earlier. But I think it is time to find some Deoxit

 

[greentruck]

I'm just repeating what others have said, but t be completely clear, it's not just using an OEM gasket or the spec-ed adhesive. Those are important. Most important of all is following the specified steps in the FSM. Exactly.

I used to work as a step-and-fetch-it guy in a heavy duty fleet garage. This included dealing with our glass vendor, who were cooperative because big trucks are a lot like Land Cruisers, a little quirky. They subsequently did 2 windshields for me per FSM and not a lick of a issue.

 

[Mrtwooooo]

Glass installers seem to be the worst when it comes to listening to the car owner.
I’ve had the run around with them as well. The part to me that is the hardest is telling them to glue the gasket to the windshield and then glue the gasket to the body. One of those steps in my opinion doesn’t seem like it’s a normal thing and they push back. Which then causes a leak.