Why LC more expensive than LX? (1 Viewer)

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For me performance means power delivery. If the 3UR Is anything like other Toyota V8s, the tune will definitely take advantage of higher octane.

THIS.

I see and feel definite performance and efficiency gains when running premium fuel over regular.
 
Running cost comparisons of extra fuel cost premium vs rebuilding engines is a pointless thing to do.

Rebuilding the engine also has these costs:
1. Being broken down on the side of the road. Best case, you're in your drive way. Worst case, you're a few thousand miles away from home, in the middle of nowhere. How much is that recovery/transport going to cost you? Cost of ruined trip?
2. Time and effort sourcing the engine. Do you happen to have these in stock at your local Walmart? I sure don't.
3. Time and cost transporting the broken vehicle + replacement engine to a shop.
4. Risk of having the shop do everything correctly. Cost of downtime.
5. Potential additional depreciation cost. I sure as heck would prefer to buy a vehicle with a well taken care of, original engine, instead of a rebuilt one (by god knows who and how).

Someone mentioned $6k to rebuild an engine vs $10k for extra fuel. Make that $6k vs $20k, and I'll still pick the $20k option, because the above hassle will have that much of a negative impact on my life. I bought a Lexus in no small part because it's consistently the #1 most reliable vehicle brand, and the LX570 specifically because it's the best of what Lexus has to offer. If I wanted to be rebuilding engines, I'd buy a turbo'd, 1995 civic from the neighbourhood boy-racer.

I don't have access to the ECU maps, and neither does anyone else. Until that changes and it's proven otherwise, I'm proceeding under the (very reasonable) assumption that there's a good reason the engineers that built this vehicle call for 91 octane. No, "it's just marketing" is not an acceptable argument. All of the "it runs fine on 87" comments are nothing more than short-term anecdotes in a very long-term game.

You do you.

I love how you reference my post then missed all my points. Can you prove using 87 will leave me broken down on the side of the road and having to deal with what most of your post is about? No. Can you prove I will pay for an engine rebuild at all? No. You are also assuming that I haven’t done my research to make sure the 6k covers a properly rebuilt engine from a company that specializes in rebuilding engines and have done so for decades. You are making all kinds of wild assumptions based on a wild notion that somehow the engine will die in the middle of the road, and that we have to do something as drastic such as towing it thousands of miles home to replace it. 3urs are all over the country and even prevalent in other countries, and I am 100% confident that nearby shops in any Us state will be able to source them in a timely manner. Anyways that’s all a moot point simply because there isn't any proof that this (regular gas) will lead to that.

Can I prove you will pay extra 10k? Yes.

That’s great if you have that much money to spend that you can choose to spend 20k to prevent something that you can’t prove will happen, but I don’t and even if I did I won’t until someone can prove the cost is worth it.

Also, your assumption that I paid top dollars for an LX then cheap out on gas is wrong, and you would know this if you didn’t ignore all my other points like I said; I paid 18k so 6k difference in gas cost over next 180k is 1/3 of vehicle price. The 6k was to show that even in worst case scenario the cost is still way less than best case scenarios for the other side.

Like you said, you do you brother.
 
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Someone asked what would be main purpose of the truck. I am looking the truck to be more of high speed desert runner than a rock climber.
 
I just paid .30 more per gallon... and I feel great... I have never heard of anyone rebuilding a land cruiser engine 🤪

cost $3.60 to fill up and she runs great lol

I ran 88 non Ethanol fuel For a year and she ran great.

either way toyota engines are bomb so I’m never worried about rebuilding one lol

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You paid $3.60 to fill up? In what, 1950?
 
Someone asked what would be main purpose of the truck. I am looking the truck to be more of high speed desert runner than a rock climber.

In my experience the AHC\AVS, worked great on washboard dirt roads, but sucked at anything more than that at high speeds. That's why I removed the system from my LX, which has been a major process..

I'd go with a LC for high speed desert running, since it is easier to modify the suspension.
 
In my experience the AHC\AVS, worked great on washboard dirt roads, but sucked at anything more than that at high speeds. That's why I removed the system from my LX, which has been a major process..

I'd go with a LC for high speed desert running, since it is easier to modify the suspension.
Thank you! This answer basically answers my own questions :), I think it will be LC! Now the hunt begins for the color combo
 
In my experience the AHC\AVS, worked great on washboard dirt roads, but sucked at anything more than that at high speeds. That's why I removed the system from my LX, which has been a major process..

I'd go with a LC for high speed desert running, since it is easier to modify the suspension.

Even though I don't live near a desert, that has been my dream. Baja style high speed desert running/washboard roads. I went LC as well because of that. Icon has a great suspension for it. I recommend white LC. I have black which is also nice. I'm not too hot on other colors,
 
Has anyone tried watching this PID on reg vs. premium?

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