Twio questions, are there those old toyota cars in Canada, also when was the first FJ25 shipped to Canada.
Jamie
1984 BJ42, the last 40 series.
Jamie
1984 BJ42, the last 40 series.
When was the first FJ25 shipped to Canada
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JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
good question.....
was the 25 ever imported to canada?
toyota canada wasn't formed till 07/01/1964
Toyota Canada site says "In 1965, Toyota offered two models, and sold 755 vehicles in Canada."
was the 25 ever imported to canada?
toyota canada wasn't formed till 07/01/1964
Toyota Canada site says "In 1965, Toyota offered two models, and sold 755 vehicles in Canada."
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I don't believe it ever was sent to Canada. Unless a private import like a good number of 25's were here.
semlin
curmudgeon
a mud member recently reported a siting of one in BC but it is not yet confirmed with a photo. it could be a us import or brought in by a logging or mining outfit.
JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
further info:
Toyota Sells Three-Millionth Vehicle in Canada
"Canadians certainly like Toyotas, and have for more than four decades. Yes, the first two Toyota models arrived from Japan in November of 1964, with the automaker’s first full year of sales being 1965; the same year the Canada-United States Automotive Agreement, commonly referred to as the Auto Pact, was signed."
Toyota Sells Three-Millionth Vehicle in Canada
"Canadians certainly like Toyotas, and have for more than four decades. Yes, the first two Toyota models arrived from Japan in November of 1964, with the automaker’s first full year of sales being 1965; the same year the Canada-United States Automotive Agreement, commonly referred to as the Auto Pact, was signed."
JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
looks like there were NO japanese cars/trucks in canada at all till 1964/65:
see this interesting link on canada japanese import history:
http://www.jama.ca/industry/history/JAMA_History_ENG.pdf
see this interesting link on canada japanese import history:
http://www.jama.ca/industry/history/JAMA_History_ENG.pdf
JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
i wonder if "My wife said no FJ! " has the first land cruiser imported to Canada? 
That would be too cool, but my guess would be not. I'll try looking it up, and see if there is a vin number match somewhere in the record books.
I love the way you can find such interesting articles...what ever you do don't stop. Very cool!!!
I love the way you can find such interesting articles...what ever you do don't stop. Very cool!!!
now I may be wrong but I didnt think Cruisers were sold in Canada officialy untill 1975.
I don't know for sure, but 1975 seems aweful late. There are lots of cruisers here starting from about the 1969 model year. Most parts suppliers listings start at '69 as well.
My own truck I have no idea of its history as to when it was imported. But I have spoken with a lady who special ordered a 45lpb for use on her ranch directly through Toyota Canada in 1966. The truck is still around, though it was badly beaten and rolled several times.
My own truck I have no idea of its history as to when it was imported. But I have spoken with a lady who special ordered a 45lpb for use on her ranch directly through Toyota Canada in 1966. The truck is still around, though it was badly beaten and rolled several times.
So she's the original owner of her '66...pretty cool!
Unfortunately, she doesn't own the '66 anymore. After the second time she rolled the truck, she parked it waiting to do some repairs. Saddly, she traded one of the nearby ranchers two chainsaws for it. Apparently it is still being used (though without a top since the body wasn't repaired), while both saws have since died. I met her because of a one owner '77 45lpb that is being stored at her place. I still haven't convinced the owner to sell, but I'm working on it.
There are some of the older trucks around, but they are very rare, and could well have been brought in from the states.
There are some of the older trucks around, but they are very rare, and could well have been brought in from the states.
That has zero bearing on this.
Toyota, while apparently very proud of their heritage, has chose to provide product support no further back than 03/1969, even in the USA.
semlin
curmudgeon
i think poser is correct. Toyota canada dealers have full parts info for a 93 FZJ80 even though they were never sold here and the BC parts system gets at least some parts from california. i think they piggyback on and share access to the us parts system.
anecdotally, the 67 FJ45LV I found in the woods a couple of years back had non-US market features according to the 45 guys including a grill hood vent and a difference in the roof rib attachments.
anecdotally, the 67 FJ45LV I found in the woods a couple of years back had non-US market features according to the 45 guys including a grill hood vent and a difference in the roof rib attachments.
I think all this information has pertenance to some degree. It seems that most of the history that has been recorded pertaining to dates that Landcruisers were first brought into Canada suggest late 70's. As far as manufacturing plant it seems that '85 (mostly aluminum wheels) then a full time production plant built in '87 and start of production in November of '87.
Supposedly the 55 series was designed with a longer wheel base to accomadate N. American/Austrailian needs. If I'm not mistaken their (55 series) started in '67? Again, probably to some having zero bearing on the initial question but, consider this; In regards to the initial question, couldn't a private individual have imported a Landcruiser at any time during circulation/production?
just curious, what were those models?
Supposedly the 55 series was designed with a longer wheel base to accomadate N. American/Austrailian needs. If I'm not mistaken their (55 series) started in '67? Again, probably to some having zero bearing on the initial question but, consider this; In regards to the initial question, couldn't a private individual have imported a Landcruiser at any time during circulation/production?
just curious, what were those models?
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JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
Toyota is not that stupid....knowing the climate in canada it would have been a 4x4 like the land cruiser as one and the corona as the other....here are my reasons
1) canada is very snowy...showcase your best 4x4 in the worst of climates to get a reputation base started.
2) Toyota learned from the mistake of not knowing the climate in the selling area...the toyopets overheated engines and transmissions in california was a big ....Oooops.
3) The boxy Corona was in a market competion with VW Beatle...the beatle was a great seller in Canada...Toyota was out to get the big guy.
4) Land Cruiser was already an established seller in all areas of he USA in 1964...carry over the reliable 4x4 to canada.
This is all opinion....but i will send out the fealers to search out a definative answer
1) canada is very snowy...showcase your best 4x4 in the worst of climates to get a reputation base started.
2) Toyota learned from the mistake of not knowing the climate in the selling area...the toyopets overheated engines and transmissions in california was a big ....Oooops.
3) The boxy Corona was in a market competion with VW Beatle...the beatle was a great seller in Canada...Toyota was out to get the big guy.
4) Land Cruiser was already an established seller in all areas of he USA in 1964...carry over the reliable 4x4 to canada.
This is all opinion....but i will send out the fealers to search out a definative answer
semlin
curmudgeon
from that PDF. light truck sales start in 1967. as noted, I have seen a 1967 FJ45LV with non usa features.
JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
I may be wrong on both my guesses...one is definatly the Crown with 115 units...so....640 units of something else (corona?)....this is from Toyota papers as seen in post: https://forum.ih8mud.com/fj25-owners-group/183011-toyota-historical-data.html
JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
Toyota Crown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"It was also exported to Canada for a few years—1965–68."
also got an email:
"Good Morning John, no problem for the questions.You are correct that CMI, Canadian Motor Industries, it was then called started selling Toyota's in Canada in 1965 the models at first were Corolla and Corona. Our family dealership started in business in 1968 we were one of the original 8 in Altantic Canada, there is now 26 Dealers in the maritimes and about 275 in Canada.Regards Dave Clark"
I believe he's right with the Corona....but the Corolla was introduced in 1968 in the USA...and I would think it was introduced at the same time in Canada...when clark toyota started it would have then sold the Crown and Corolla....the Corolla being the replacement to the short lived Crown in Canada.
Semlin must be correct in that the PDF states that the light truck...?assume? "Land Cruiser" was imported in 1967 or the Stout or combination of both?
"It was also exported to Canada for a few years—1965–68."
also got an email:
"Good Morning John, no problem for the questions.You are correct that CMI, Canadian Motor Industries, it was then called started selling Toyota's in Canada in 1965 the models at first were Corolla and Corona. Our family dealership started in business in 1968 we were one of the original 8 in Altantic Canada, there is now 26 Dealers in the maritimes and about 275 in Canada.Regards Dave Clark"
I believe he's right with the Corona....but the Corolla was introduced in 1968 in the USA...and I would think it was introduced at the same time in Canada...when clark toyota started it would have then sold the Crown and Corolla....the Corolla being the replacement to the short lived Crown in Canada.
Semlin must be correct in that the PDF states that the light truck...?assume? "Land Cruiser" was imported in 1967 or the Stout or combination of both?
JohnnyC
Long ago TLCA# 2231
as a side note if anybody is around Clark Toyota....they are an old dealership in Canada....they may have some cool dusty things on the shelfs from 1967
