6-Speed is the only way to go
Wheeling purposes...6-speed vs auto
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I will be going for the stick even though no dealers around here orders manuals anymore.
Wheeled for years with a manual...wheeled with an auto once.
I will never wheel with a manual ever again.
I will never wheel with a manual ever again.
Locking Diff Question
Thought I i read in a list of specifications for the FJC that the Locking diff was only available with the the 6 speed trany. Anyone recall this or am I mistaken?
Also where did the notion that the 6 speed would be fulltime 4WD come from is that written down anywhere offically?
Thanks
Thought I i read in a list of specifications for the FJC that the Locking diff was only available with the the 6 speed trany. Anyone recall this or am I mistaken?
Also where did the notion that the 6 speed would be fulltime 4WD come from is that written down anywhere offically?
Thanks
thanks Firetruck. Still in the fence, 6sp vs auto. Leaning manual though. Will be doing mostly highway communtes with the occasional off road trip. Counting on the FJ to get me through north east winters. It will be replacing a much ailling 98 Blazer LT.
6 speed all the way
Stick shift makes it hard for me to drink my beer while driving......
just kidding. but I do prefer the auto.
just kidding. but I do prefer the auto.
firetruck41 said:The auto gets better MPG than the manual, at least in the Tacoma. That is a trend that is becoming more common.
I don't think this is possible if you compare the same engine and driveline. The auto will always have some loss of power in the transmission (torque convertrer) as where a clutch connects the engine to the transmission directly.
I would go with the 6 speed.
Look at the EPA figures:NocalFJ60 said:
2006 4.0 4wd Tacoma: 16/21 for the 6spd manual, 17/21 for the 5 spd auto, same engine/drivetrain (other than tranny, of course).
2006 Camry 2.4 4cyl: 24/34 auto, 24/33 manual
2006 Xterra 4.0 6cyl 4wd: 16/21 auto; 17/21 manual
2006 Altima 3.5 6cyl SEl: 20/30 auto; 21/27 manual
Those are just some examples, and of course EPA estimates don't always correspond with real life mpg, but it is a good gauge to go by and the differences between manual/auto mpg are rapidly shrinking in some cases. I believe all current autos probably have lockup torque convertors so at least when you are cruising in top gear, there are (virtually/relatively) no driveline losses there.
firetruck41 said:
That is true these days. They have minimized the loss quite a bit with lockup torque converters. I guess the mileage is better on auto now since the loss is minimized and the transmission shifts it perfectly each time unlike me on manual.
One advantage that no-one has mentioned is the push start capability of the 6-speed manual. A standard auto can't be pushed to start.
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firetruck41 said:
Ben,
I believe you will find the drivetrains are not completely identical, at least in the Taco example. IIRC, the diffs are geared higher in the autos. I agree that the mileage difference is minimal with the slight advantage now going to autos. Performace will go to the manuals.
For those claiming a manual is "better for wheeling", I would suggest taking a manual up and down Black Bear (Colorado) in the rain. That's a wheeling trip that might change your mind on which is "better;" even more so if you drive a long wheelbase.
-B-