Wheel Width for 12.5" tire

[Glenn-BJ74]

I agree. With the 1.08 Marks under gear I now have I need 34.8” tall. I would like 315/75 16 but I would have run spacers up the front, unless I can find 3.5" back spaced 16”x8". I wish to avoid spacers up front.

I have the correct back spacing, and I have 1.25” inner rubber to spring clearances now.

Still looking.

 

[crushers]

disagree with your assumtion that the alloy are bad for off roading.
i have at least 9 witnesses to my taking an alloy with a flat tire 9 km of off road running back to the trail head when i had no choice. steel or alloy, both would have been buggered beyond trail repair. after hitting numerous rocks, branches etc with the alloy rim it never busted...


it was an eye opener for everyone there.

I know you want alloys for overall weight and balancing, but with a better tire you won't have the same balance issues as you and before. A rim and tires is un-sprung weight - and it is not necessarily a bad thing.

There are lots and lots of people out there who won't touch an alloy for off-roading off the beaten track because once you've damaged the bead edge, you're pretty much done. At least with a steel wheel you can beat it back into place.

There are some alloys out there that work... I see them appearing on Cruisers around here from time to time. Also, backspacing is not as much of an issue (tie rod end clearance) with 16" rims. The only real spacing issue that comes up is inner wheel well clearance.

If I had my choice: 255 85R 16 Toyo Muds. If you need wider, then 285s or 315s.

Just some more thoughts....

~John

 

[Radd Cruisers]

5 bolt wheels there Wayne... there are different types of Aluminum used in wheels and some is more maleable than others. I've seen chipped beads on alloys that leak air as well as bent steelies that leak air.

Plus, you're just really hard on equipment.


~John

 

[crushers]

exactly my point, there is high quality alloy that bends and takes a beating without chipping or busting a chunk and there are crap alloys that if they even SEE a rock they bust a nut.

same with steelies, you have your PrincessLoto specials and your more expensive rims that ballance and take a beating.

those rims in the pic are $500 each. that was an odd ball take came as a spare on one of the JDM trucks. it was sacrificial.
the situation was, i had the only Mits J53 on the run out in Wipersous valley. we had a half dozen cruisers. i wanted to test out the Mits so i brought it out. we hit some soft patches of ice on the creek and (i think) 3 trucks lost a bead. the land cruisers had many spares to chose from in the group but i only had 1 spare. turned out this spare had a leak as well so it was either drive the thing 9 km back out to the trailer or ride out, get a full set from the trailer and drive back, change all 4 and then drive back out again. i figured i wouldn't make 10 feet on a flat tire but i was wrong. i made the full 9 km with the tire eventually popping the bead on the outside working its way till the inner bead was rubbing on the outter bead seat then it would work its way all the way back across the rim till the outside bead was rubbing on the inner bead seat of the rim. back and forth all the way out of the bush. the truck climbed the hills, crossed the creek bed, hit rocks, logs, ice chunk but it never gave up the ghost. it got me home.

<that was the same run where Daryl Chymko had to BACK those same 9 km in reverse because of a busted rear pinion. you can not drive forward if you bust the pinion since the rotation wants to pull the pinion inside and lock the rear diff up but if you back the truck then the rotation forces the pinion out of the hole and doesn't lock up.>

it was a wicked day with tons of laughs.

<<you can get the same rims in 6 bolt patterns on Cruisers>>

 

[Glenn-BJ74]

so then your post begs the question... why are you going so fast around the corners?

i agree with John, the 06 rims do allow for stiffer sidewalls but also lead to a harsher ride due to less flex.
for me, it is what ever is in the pile at the time. i have 35X12.5X15 on 10" rims, tracks beautifully, rides very smooth and corners well. i have run the same tires on 8" rims with the same results.

maybe you need different tires?

Yes - the 33 x12.5 Truxus are too soft/flexible when aired up. I am getting new tires, MTR with Kevlar

 

[pradocruzer]

I run the new MTR's 35x12.5 R15 on 15x8 (poor mans bead locks) Prcomp steelies. I have been out quite a few times since the new rubber and have been very impressed with the MTR'S. Yesturday I went up a brend new skidder road with a good foot of mud on it and was impressed. They work great in the wet with all the biting edges and not bad in the snow. There is no substitute for TSL boggers in the mud but they out preformed Procomp's Mud Extream's that were my last set of tires.
It's not such a big deal in my mind if the tires wear out a litter sooner just a great reason to buy a new set.

 

[crushers]

oh yes there is something that chews up Boggers and spits them back out...

on one of the Alberta runs we has a variety of mud tires performing at the same time in the same conditions.
the Claw is s***
the MTR is very decent
the bogger is crap on sidehills, no stability at all.
the SS radials actually performed all right.
goodyear XL performed amazing
i am trying to remember the other mud tire that was there, it was as good as the MTR.
the buckshot (something) really performs well too.

of course the real men run actual tractor tires for off roading.

now, a full foot of actual mud? or a foot of mud and water? just asking cause 12" of cull ground clearence is pretty good since your track arms are lower than the diff housing... just say'n...

 

[pradocruzer]

"of course the real men run actual tractor tires for off roading."
Wow, well I must not be a real man. I like my insides to stay intact while driving down the highway. Most of the time there is no planing for off roading for me and in fact it's usually on the way to grocery shopping or a phone call and away I go. On my old Suzuki I used to swap tires around for wheeling. I came to the conclusion that it was a waste of time and hard on wheel studs and nuts.
Anyway each to their own.
The mud was wet but not covered in water. I got out and the mud went past my 10 inch hunting boots. Call it a foot and yes I was scarring the face of mother earth.

 

[crushers]

that is pretty good clearence there PC...
you really have to stop taking things I say personally. it is all in fun.

BTW, just for the record. tractor tires are as smooth as street radials at 50 k/h but feel like chains on hard ground at 20 k/h and at 80 ... well ... they don't take corners worth crap.

 

[pradocruzer]

I didn't take anything personal. You gave me a challenge and I accepted. That's all

Take care.

 

[crushers]

next challenge...
we need to go wheeling this summer, got any good SCENIC trails out there that we can do?

 

[pradocruzer]

You bet. Its gods country out here. Give me a shout if your out this way and don't forget to bring your fly rod and hip waiters.
Take care

 

[crushers]

i must confess i have never fly fished so that would be a challenge to learn.

depending on the situation but i might be doing a coastal run this summer, the truck will be trailered out since it tops out (comfortably) at 90 k/h (it will do 140 but the poor old girl would probably bust a ovary).

if it comes about i will shoot you a line.

<as for Gods country, i agree completely and i almost moved there instead of back here... almost.>

cheers

 

[Glenn-BJ74]

exactly my point, there is high quality alloy that bends and takes a beating without chipping or busting a chunk and there are crap alloys that if they even SEE a rock they bust a nut.

same with steelies, you have your PrincessLoto specials and your more expensive rims that ballance and take a beating.

those rims in the pic are $500 each. that was an odd ball take came as a spare on one of the JDM trucks. it was sacrificial.
the situation was, i had the only Mits J53 on the run out in Wipersous valley. we had a half dozen cruisers. i wanted to test out the Mits so i brought it out. we hit some soft patches of ice on the creek and (i think) 3 trucks lost a bead. the land cruisers had many spares to chose from in the group but i only had 1 spare. turned out this spare had a leak as well so it was either drive the thing 9 km back out to the trailer or ride out, get a full set from the trailer and drive back, change all 4 and then drive back out again. i figured i wouldn't make 10 feet on a flat tire but i was wrong. i made the full 9 km with the tire eventually popping the bead on the outside working its way till the inner bead was rubbing on the outter bead seat then it would work its way all the way back across the rim till the outside bead was rubbing on the inner bead seat of the rim. back and forth all the way out of the bush. the truck climbed the hills, crossed the creek bed, hit rocks, logs, ice chunk but it never gave up the ghost. it got me home.

<that was the same run where Daryl Chymko had to BACK those same 9 km in reverse because of a busted rear pinion. you can not drive forward if you bust the pinion since the rotation wants to pull the pinion inside and lock the rear diff up but if you back the truck then the rotation forces the pinion out of the hole and doesn't lock up.>

it was a wicked day with tons of laughs.

<<you can get the same rims in 6 bolt patterns on Cruisers>>

this doesn't surprise me as all the comparable sized alloys I have used have a higher load rating than the steel wheels