What do i gain with 35" over 33" tires?

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Qball said:
With 35s and NO bump stop spacer I only rub a tiny bit up front which is so little I decided not to to lose my suspension travel for that little bit of paint on the fender. So when it comes to 35s and stock suspension the rub is minimum of any!
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Yep trivial, but lots on here like to parrot their FUD, mostly those with no experience.

Qball said:
Also when it comes to break stuff things don't stop breaking until 37s and even that requires very specific condition and user error to break Birfield. ...
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When can I expect this to start happening? Mine has had 37"s for a long time and is wheeled often.

Qball said:
Remember is the is a landcruiser not a jeep.
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We work, wheel with a diverse group of clubs, so well aware!:hillbilly:
 
greentruck said:
...Then again, there's folks that aren't having fun until they're waist deep in rocks. ...
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That reads like disdain, lessor form of wheeling? IMHO, a totally acceptable, legitimate form of recreation. Some do it for fun, others need that tool to get where they want to go. I have done enough to be dangerous, enough to know it's all about precision driving, a very fun challenge to learn. Likely isn't much practical use for it in the Midwest? Where some of us wheel, the land is made of rock, if you don't know how to deal with it, you're stuck with the groomed roads.
 
Tools R Us said:
We wheel with a group from Colombia, they came up for the last Colorado trip. Prefer to drive, but shipping their rigs is cost prohibitive, so rent-a-wheeler is the plan. A rent-a-wheeler with a flat on Governor's basin/Imogen.
Rent-a-wheeler exploring some mining stuff around Silverton.
Rent-a-wheerler on Black Bear Pass.
Corkscrew
Could dig up more, they were on, Engineer, Ophir, California, Hurricane, etc. IIRC, the only trail there were none was Poughkeepsie. All of the Cruisers have 35" of 37", so in Mud logic, those rigs are just as capable, they went the same places?
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On that day, those trails, those vehicles, it's all equal in my book and makes my point clearly. Sure, the rigs rolling 35s and up could out-perform the rent-a-rigs if things were different. But any ultimate difference in capability is irrelevant if all make it over these trails in good order.

The phenomenon is hardly restricted to these trails.

Take this bunch to Holy Cross City, then things compute differently.
 
Tools R Us said:
The same thing works in Moab.

The rent-a-wheeler coming out of Elephant hill, the day started in Blanding, so over the mountain, the Causeway, Ruin Park, Beef Basin, Bobby's Hole...
Lockhart Basin.
Hells Revenge.
Fins and Things.
White Rim.

There is photographic proof, big tires, lockers, armor, total waste of time. Just get a rent-a-wheeler, likely cheaper and someone else can worry about the maintenance!:hillbilly:
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Not sure about a "total waste" but rather superfluous, i.e. loaded for bear, but there's no bears around right here that I can see.:beer:
 
Tools R Us said:
That reads like disdain, lessor form of wheeling? IMHO, a totally acceptable, legitimate form of recreation. Some do it for fun, others need that tool to get where they want to go. I have done enough to be dangerous, enough to know it's all about precision driving, a very fun challenge to learn. Likely isn't much practical use for it in the Midwest? Where some of us wheel, the land is made of rock, if you don't know how to deal with it, you're stuck with the groomed roads.
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No, not disdain at all, but the kind of practical difference where you can see that lockers are clearly a good investment vs "nice to have."

You are right there's few places to practice knowing where each tire is in the Midwest, although a few places do exist where it matters if you go looking for it. That does leave folks unprepared if they've never been out West before. That's my kind of fun, frankly, and how you get a short-tired vehicle over places that often commonly see more well endowed trucks. In the end, what matters is whether they get over the trail without damage in reasonable order. If you can't keep up with the big dogs, maybe you've misread the trail? Or, like Holy Cross City, you know what's coming and you take a stab at it anyway. But there are only so many trails like that. Yer makes your choices and takes yer picks.
 
Summiteer said:
I was getting 16-17 pretty consistently with 33's but now get 14-15 with 35's.
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16 to 17 on the road is right where our truck is at on 33s. Can't speak to the 35s;)

I do run the correcting speedo drive gear that Slee sold. It gets you close, although I think still 3 to 4% off? I read MPG off the ScanGauge, checked against the tank refill. Pretty sure the numbers are accurate enough with those adjustments.

If you search, you can find the MPG discussions involving the stock 265(?) Michelins vs 33s. For some reason related to CAFE, smog, or maybe both, Toyota went with the short tires for this market. Elsewhere, many apparently left the showroom on 33s, depending on local market and expected road conditions. The key thing here is that RPM at 65 to 70 mph gets in that sweet spot on the torque curve around 2100 to 2200 rpm on 33s.
 
Dragos80 said:
I get 10MPG per tank on 33's
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In the city? Yeah, tire size seems to make little difference there. The observed gains have all been on the road for me. The truck still get 10 mpg no matter what around town.
 
greentruck said:
... Take this bunch to Holy Cross City, then things compute differently.
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When I travel, attempt to limit exposure to oopsies, wheel somewhat conservatively, kinda, sometimes. Anyway, no need, we have plenty of challenging trail, know well what it's like. This is a group that we work with, running one of the trails we keep. This is by no means the most challenging part or the most challenging trail, just a fun one close to town. Doubt that you are going to have much success on 31"s or unlocked, but your welcome to try?!



The white cherokee was his camping/hunting rig, his other rig is much more aggressive. The cherokee recently underwent a transformation, now looks like this::hillbilly:
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greentruck said:
... But there are only so many trails like that. ...
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Surely you jest, I can take you to dozens of trails like posted above, or if you prefer, significantly more challenging, within an hour or so drive from where I'm siting. That one is only ~30min away. We will be out all day tomorrow, with the Forest engineer that is assigned to us, looking at some sites that need attention, will be running a bunch of trail in a hurry. My guess, in your skinny 33" unlocked low rider, would be done, on the strap, on most of it, or broken, body damage very likely. :hillbilly:
 
What a pissing match this thread turned into lady's. Lots of good points but the bottom line is, how long do you want to spend to get where you are going? And if mpg is a biggie then you are definitely driving the wrong vehicle.
 
baldilocks said:
What a pissing match this thread turned into lady's. Lots of good points but the bottom line is, how long do you want to spend to get where you are going? And if mpg is a biggie then you are definitely driving the wrong vehicle.
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I agree, run what you want and call it a day. If you are happy with 33s or 31s then let no one tell you otherwise and on the same token no need to justify anything to anyone either.
 
Pics from this past weekend. My buddy got stuck with his 33s but had his winter tires which had some nice lugs (not ice tires). All locked, and I had my Toyo 35 MTs, with only rear diff lock working. Managed to pull him out going up slight grade which seems to be case often for getting stuck in our area. I can say definitely say that the larger 35 MT tires made the difference in this case as I was digging down a good 1-1.5' before I managed to get some traction.

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Tools R Us said:
This is by no means the most challenging part or the most challenging trail, just a fun one close to town. Doubt that you are going to have much success on 31"s or unlocked, but your welcome to try?!
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Nah, think I'd stick to 33s on that one.;) I do see a lot of lines that look good in many spots, but my cranky old XP box was having trouble deciding whether that was a video or slide show. But if it's mostly like at the 4 minute mark where there's a rather obvious bypass, I'd just drive around that...

Again, I suspect this is as much a philosophical difference of opinion on what you use the truck for. To me, it's transportation. To others, it's a test of their equipment. Since I'm not all that interested in overcoming every known obstacle, just getting there, if someone else wants to engage in performance art, that's interesting to watch, but not really my cup of tea. Some of this is budget-based, I've got other things to spend my funds on, but frankly even if money was no object, I'd build a crawler if I wanted to extreme-play in the rocks. A spiffy FJ40 on portal axles would be cool...
 
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