Used LC 250 Prado / GX550 Post-Liberation Day Current Value Tracker

[doc5339]

Curious if this thread might get some traction, the way the 200-series price thread tracks current pricing. *edit: I GET IT, these are not 200-series / LX570's so they are not in as high demand, nor venerated as the almighty 200-series. Just thought it might be fun for owners, buyers, and sellers.*

March 13th 2025 selling value to Carmax for my 2024 LC 250 base less than 8,000-miles was: $59,000.00

April 4th 2025 Carmax selling value is: $58,000.00

**edit: I would have added the Carvana values as well, however, Carvana misquoted my VIN as a 1958, so the values skew much lower.**

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My theory is used import prices will be going up significantly in the not too distant future (next quarter or so) unless big changes are made. What do you guys think?

 

[Zill]

Curious if this thread might get some traction, the way the 200-series price thread tracks current pricing. *edit: I GET IT, these are not 200-series / LX570's so they are not in as high demand, nor venerated as the almighty 200-series. Just thought it might be fun for owners, buyers, and sellers.*

March 13th 2025 selling value to Carmax for my 2024 LC 250 base less than 8,000-miles was: $59,000.00

April 4th 2025 Carmax selling value is: $58,000.00

**edit: I would have added the Carvana values as well, however, Carvana misquoted my VIN as a 1958, so the values skew much lower.**

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My theory is used import prices will be going up significantly in the not too distant future (next quarter or so) unless big changes are made. What do you guys think?

Toyota announced they are not planning on up-charging imported vehicles for now and they are eating the costs so I doubt it.

They must have some massive profit margins baked into these new TNGA platform vehicles to do that.

 

[Noctilucent]

Toyota announced they are not planning on up-charging imported vehicles for now and they are eating the costs so I doubt it.

They must have some massive profit margins baked into these new TNGA platform vehicles to do that.

p RAD o. RAD to the core.

 

[Zill]

p RAD o. RAD to the core.

They nerfed the 300 under TNGA as well.

 

[Noctilucent]

They nerfed the 300 under TNGA as well.

Massive improvement from the anceint outdated 200, ''nerfed'' lol. Okay

 

[Zill]

Massive improvement from the anceint outdated 200, ''nerfed'' lol. Okay

Right, let’s make everything thinner and flimsy, and call it an improvement. Welcome to TNGA.

 

[Noctilucent]

Right, let’s make everything thinner and flimsy, and call it an improvement. Welcome to TNGA.

a 2x4 is a stud. These things aren't breaking bud. ''duh those parts are smaller! this must mean less good!!'' Nah. that's not how it works.

 

[ppc]

Toyota announced they are not planning on up-charging imported vehicles for now and they are eating the costs so I doubt it.

Manufactures don't set or control tariffs, the US Government does, so unless Toyota announces a price decrease you are going to pay the additional 25 percent as just another sales tax.

 

[Zill]

Manufactures don't set or control tariffs, the US Government does, so unless Toyota announces a price decrease you are going to pay the additional 25 percent as just another sales tax.

Toyota controls the pricing though.

They can elect to eat the tariff cost or pass it on to consumers.

They will not be able to increase their vehicle prices by 25% because practically nobody will buy them when they have other options to choose from.

 

[ppc]

Toyota controls the pricing though.

They can elect to eat the tariff cost or pass it on to consumers.

Which means that would have to publish a price (MSRP) reduduction

 

[Zill]

Which means that would have to publish a price (MSRP) reduduction

What? The MSRP is controlled by Toyota and is not set by the government. The MSRP is not going to decrease due to a tariff.

Toyota Corporate pays the Tariff import fees when the vehicle enters the country. We don’t pay it as consumers unless Toyota decides to increase the price of the vehicle, which is at Toyota’s discretion.

 

[ppc]

What? The MSRP is controlled by Toyota and is not set by the government. The MSRP is not going to decrease due to a tariff.

Toyota Corporate pays the Tariff import fees when the vehicle enters the country. We don’t pay it as consumers unless Toyota decides to increase the price of the vehicle, which is at Toyota’s discretion.

Just like sales tax the window sticker generated by Toyota is not going show sales tax or tariffs. Ultimately both are paid by the end consumer.

 

[Zill]

Just like sales tax the window sticker generated by Toyota is not going show sales tax or tariffs. Ultimately both are paid by the end consumer.

Sales tax and tariff import taxes are two completely different tax regimes. It’s comparing apples to oranges.

Sales tax is paid by the consumer, but tariffs are paid by the company.

If Toyota wants to avoid tariffs, they need to build the vehicle in the USA.

 

[ppc]

Sales tax and tariff import taxes are two completely different tax regimes. It’s comparing apples to oranges.

Sales tax is paid by the consumer, but tariffs are paid by the company.

If Toyota wants to avoid tariffs, they need to build the vehicle in the USA.

Wrong, educate yourself.

 

[Zill]

Wrong, educate yourself.

Show me how I’m wrong. Where is your proof?

There is not a new tariff line item charge on Toyota vehicle invoices…

 

[ppc]

Show me how I’m wrong. Where is your proof?

There is not a new tariff line item charge on Toyota vehicle invoices…

Exactly. Tariffs are based on selling price. How would corporate Toyota know what the dealer's final selling price be?

You can easily go to a dealer and have them write-up a sales contract and it will be plain as day.

You must be a fox news brainwash victim.

I'm out you can fix stupid.

 

[Zill]

Exactly. Tariffs are based on selling price. How would corporate Toyota know what the dealer's final selling price be?

You can easily go to a dealer and have them write-up a sales contract and it will be plain as day.

You must be a fox news brainwash victim.

I'm out you can fix stupid.

Please go to a Toyota dealership today and buy a vehicle and show me where the tariff price increase is.

If Toyota elects to eat the cost as a part of their cost of goods sold, and not increase the vehicle price, then the consumer won’t pay a dime more.

This is completely at Toyota’s discretion to force it on the consumer or not. If they do, the mass majority of people won’t buy their vehicles.

I’m sorry, you’re in the wrong on this one.

 

[joseywales]

I wonder how many people are regretting their vote these days?

 

[pismojim]

Sales tax and tariff import taxes are two completely different tax regimes. It’s comparing apples to oranges.

Sales tax is paid by the consumer, but tariffs are paid by the company.

If Toyota wants to avoid tariffs, they need to build the vehicle in the USA.

Glad the GX550 OT+ on the driveway was Made in Japan (no tariff no sales tax) and my - soon to be for sale - '93 80 and '11 200 series might be more desirable/valuable.

Tariffs? just ask Grok...

U.S. tariffs on imported vehicles and parts, such as the 25% tariffs implemented on April 3, 2025, directly impact Toyota Motor Corporation due to its significant reliance on imports and North American production outside the U.S. Here’s how these tariffs could affect the Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) and the actual sell price at dealerships:
Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP)
The MSRP is set by Toyota and reflects the base cost of the vehicle, including production, shipping, and a profit margin. Tariffs increase the cost of vehicles imported into the U.S. or those assembled with imported parts, which Toyota sources heavily from Mexico, Canada, Japan, and other countries. For example:

• Imported Models: The Toyota Tacoma, built in Mexico, could see its MSRP rise significantly. A $50,000 Tacoma with a 25% tariff applied to its import value (typically the wholesale price, not retail) might increase by $5,000 to $12,500, depending on how much of the tariff Toyota passes on. Analysts estimate tariff-related MSRP hikes for imported vehicles could range from $3,000 to $6,000 on average.
• U.S.-Assembled Models with Imported Parts: Even vehicles like the Camry, built in Kentucky, use imported components. Tariffs on parts (also 25% as of May 2, 2025) could add hundreds to thousands of dollars to production costs. For instance, a Camry’s MSRP might rise by $1,800 due to parts tariffs alone, as Toyota noted in past tariff scenarios.
• Toyota’s Response: Toyota has publicly stated it aims to avoid immediate MSRP increases by cutting fixed costs and maintaining current operations. However, with lean inventories (e.g., 32.7 days’ supply in March 2025, well below the industry average of 89 days), sustained tariffs could force gradual MSRP adjustments—potentially 8% to 16% per vehicle—if cost absorption becomes unsustainable.

Actual Sell Price at Dealership
The actual sell price—often called the transaction price—reflects what consumers pay after dealer markups, incentives, and market dynamics. Tariffs complicate this:

• Direct Cost Pass-Through: Dealers pay more for tariffed vehicles from Toyota, so they’re likely to raise prices to maintain margins. A $50,000 Tacoma could jump to $62,500 if the full tariff is passed on, though Toyota’s cost-cutting might temper this to, say, $55,000-$58,000 initially. Posts on X and industry reports suggest dealers will pass most of the tariff cost to buyers rather than absorb it.
• Market Adjustments: With competitors like Ford (more U.S.-built models) facing less tariff pressure, Toyota dealers might face reduced bargaining power. However, if Ford raises prices to match Toyota’s new baseline (e.g., a $45,000 Ford truck creeping toward $50,000 due to market opportunity), the gap narrows. This “price creep” is widely anticipated, as U.S. automakers won’t need to stay drastically cheaper to compete.
• Inventory Dynamics: Pre-tariff stock (built before April 3, 2025) isn’t subject to tariffs, giving dealers a temporary buffer. Once this sells out—quickly, given Toyota’s low inventory—new, tariffed stock will dominate, pushing transaction prices up 15%-20% on affected models like the RAV4 (partly Canadian-built) or Tacoma. Cox Automotive estimates a $5,000-$10,000 hike on popular imports.
• Consumer Behavior: A pre-tariff sales surge (e.g., 1.59 million units in March 2025) shows buyers rushing to avoid hikes. Post-tariff, demand might drop for pricier models, forcing dealers to offer fewer discounts or shift focus to used cars, further inflating transaction prices.

Broader Context
Toyota sold 2.3 million vehicles in the U.S. in 2024, with many assembled in Mexico (e.g., Tacoma) or reliant on Canadian/Japanese parts (e.g., RAV4). The tariffs, aimed at boosting U.S. manufacturing, hit Toyota harder than domestics like Ford or GM, though all face parts-related cost increases. If tariffs persist, Toyota might shift production to the U.S., but that’s years away—meaning near-term MSRP and sell prices will likely rise, with estimates of $3,000-$6,000 for imported models and $1,000-$3,000 for U.S.-built ones with foreign parts. Dealership prices will amplify this as market forces and tight supply kick in.

 

[doc5339]

Toyota announced they are not planning on up-charging imported vehicles for now and they are eating the costs so I doubt it.

They must have some massive profit margins baked into these new TNGA platform vehicles to do that.

Most OEM's have margins of 25% or less on new vehicles. I doubt Toyota will be able to eat the cost on its imported vehicles.