Well, I'm assuming the PO's wife drove it like a race car. They are original at ~95k, warped but turnable. My 100 has 50k hard miles on a heavy truck... No warp.
Perhaps your foot?
Unacceptable Brake Performance of the Toyota Land Cruiser Lexus LX 570
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Well, I'm assuming the PO's wife drove it like a race car. They are original at ~95k, warped but turnable. My 100 has 50k hard miles on a heavy truck... No warp.
Perhaps your foot?
FinallyGotOne!
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This is a crazy thread...but I must admit, my new(er) 200 with 10K miles has brakes that feel terrible compared to my 100 with 200K miles. I am Willing to bet a good bleed will sharpen them right up.
i came across this thread as am having front brake related issues with '13LX.. First set of brakes went at 25k miles. Second set at 36k miles and now i am at 43k miles and have only 6mm left on fronts. Was just wondering if 10k interval is something i should expect or out of fronts?
My experience FWIIW: I'm on my second 200 (both 2008), and they both needed pads up front between 60 and 75K miles. Rears were still serviceable but replaced at the same time for convenience. Second one did have some "warp" of the front rotors from previous owner, but since replacing >20k miles ago, no problems.
Agree with others having problems with 200 brakes. It is not my foot. I have been driving for 36 years and this is not my first car or brake change. They have generally lasted from 30-65k miles depending on where I have lived (hills or flats). The 200 brakes are weak, and wobble after a while. The claimed 60-0 at 119 feet is a big lie or a typo on Edmunds. (joke begins) perhaps they meant 191 feet (joke ends).
Interesting...I'm at 37k with no brake issues what-so-ever. I check the rotors and pads every time I swap rims, which is often 
Anyway, the rotors are spot on with no signs of needing to be turned or replaced. The brakes, surprisingly, have over 60% life left. To me, brakes/rotors lasting 50k are fantastic.
It is just too difficult to blame any one thing, driving style/manufacture year/build materials/location, on why some people are having problems and other are not.
This thread was hilarious though... Just saying...
Anyway, the rotors are spot on with no signs of needing to be turned or replaced. The brakes, surprisingly, have over 60% life left. To me, brakes/rotors lasting 50k are fantastic. It is just too difficult to blame any one thing, driving style/manufacture year/build materials/location, on why some people are having problems and other are not.
This thread was hilarious though... Just saying...
There's a great article at -Warped- Brake Disc and Other Myths.
What people are experiencing isn't "warped" rotors but actually brake pad material fusing unevenly to the rotors. Unless you're overheating the brakes by towing heavy loads down long hills in high gear, racing your vehicle at the track, or doing some other hard braking over and over before your rotors have a chance to cool, what you're experiencing is likely something else in the braking system which has the same symptom as a warped rotor.
Do you guys who are having issues always use your parking brake or do you regularly only just put the vehicle in P? FWIW I was getting vibration under deceleration from about 60 down to 40mph in my 3rd gen 4Runner after about 25-30k miles. I had the rotors turned and the problem came back after 10k. Long story short a mechanic asked me if I used the parking brake (I normally didn't at the time). I started using it and the vibration went away after a few hundred miles. The auto adjusters on the rear brakes (drums in the 4Runner) work with the parking brake, so there was likely a lot of travel in the rear brakes, causing the front brakes to take on more than their share of the braking load. When we started experiencing something similar years later in our Acura MDX (which had disc brakes in the rear), I noticed my wife wasn't bothering to set the parking brake. Once she started using it on a regular basis, the braking vibration in that vehicle went away as well.
What people are experiencing isn't "warped" rotors but actually brake pad material fusing unevenly to the rotors. Unless you're overheating the brakes by towing heavy loads down long hills in high gear, racing your vehicle at the track, or doing some other hard braking over and over before your rotors have a chance to cool, what you're experiencing is likely something else in the braking system which has the same symptom as a warped rotor.
Do you guys who are having issues always use your parking brake or do you regularly only just put the vehicle in P? FWIW I was getting vibration under deceleration from about 60 down to 40mph in my 3rd gen 4Runner after about 25-30k miles. I had the rotors turned and the problem came back after 10k. Long story short a mechanic asked me if I used the parking brake (I normally didn't at the time). I started using it and the vibration went away after a few hundred miles. The auto adjusters on the rear brakes (drums in the 4Runner) work with the parking brake, so there was likely a lot of travel in the rear brakes, causing the front brakes to take on more than their share of the braking load. When we started experiencing something similar years later in our Acura MDX (which had disc brakes in the rear), I noticed my wife wasn't bothering to set the parking brake. Once she started using it on a regular basis, the braking vibration in that vehicle went away as well.
I don't see how not using the parking brake would cause problems with other braking. The parking brake on the Cruiser utilizes a separate drum brake built into the rotor, so it is not connected to your disc brake system. Must be something else going on?
Not sure on the LC, but I've experienced this on both a 2000 Toyota 4Runner and a 2008 Acura MDX. If the parking brake uses a separate mechanism this particular solution may not apply, though I'm curious if the rear brakes may be out of spec - is there an auto-adjuster on the rear that adjusts them when you back up perhaps?
gaijin
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Auto adjusters like that went the way of the Dodo bird and drum brakes - LC has disc brakes front and rear.
I dunno. The 2nd gen Acura MDX has the same setup, and I swear getting my wife to use the parking brake on a regular basis resolved the vibration I was getting when braking. If anyone else has another idea as to why setting the parking brake would make a difference I'm keenly interested.
back to the brake issue could be on location of vehicle?? vitality what part of the country are you in?? could be weather and winter brime stuff used for ice roads??
I am in Los Angeles, so don't think elements have anything to do with it...
The reason I surveyed members is to get an idea on what the norm is. In talking to service advisor I was told that 10k is pretty much all I can hope for. So the only way to validate such claim is to get distribution of observations and make conclusions that way. If in fact it is so, then fine, I have to live with it. However, if majority of people get much better results, the dealer should look into cause for such poor result (brakes on my Land Rover lasted 15k).
The reason I surveyed members is to get an idea on what the norm is. In talking to service advisor I was told that 10k is pretty much all I can hope for. So the only way to validate such claim is to get distribution of observations and make conclusions that way. If in fact it is so, then fine, I have to live with it. However, if majority of people get much better results, the dealer should look into cause for such poor result (brakes on my Land Rover lasted 15k).
10k sounds absurdly low.
When I was looking for an LC or LX I looked at a lot of Carfax records. The lowest mileage for brake replacement IIRC was 30k, and I saw some vehicles that had 60k on them before the first replacement. I don't recall any of these had records that shows the brake rotors being turned without brake replacement but Carfax data is spotty.
I bought my 2013 LC with 49k on the clock. Toyota CPO and no record of brake replacement in the Carfax (which showed otherwise meticulous maintenance records). According to the dealer, Toyota CPO means there's a minimum of 50% of pad left. I suspect the prior owner was all highway driving, while mine is probably 80%+ city, so we'll see how long they last for me.
Markuson
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LA has a TON of stop-and-go freeway traffic though & that's tough on rotors.
Heating...cooling...heating...cooling...
But I disagree with the tech who said 10K is all you can expect...
I'm in San Diego...similar weather and just did 4000 miles through mountains, snow and desert, including steep descents and curvy roads where a lot of braking was necessary. I've not had my vehicle for over a year, and put over 30k on it during that time for a total of 78k on a 2008 200.
Rotors are fine. No pulsing or wobble.
