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A few months ago I had the transmission fluid pan on my '99 LC replaced at a local Toyota dealership (long story). The other day, I noticed that my transmission dipstick tube had some play and it rocks back and forth a little when I insert/pull out the dipstick. When I looked from under the vehicle, I saw that the dealership did not put back the bolt that holds the lower filler tube bracket to the transmission housing (?). A closer look showed that the hole where the bolt goes in on the bracket does not line up with the hole where the bolt screws in to the transmission housing (they are off by about 2-3 mm) so I believe the dealer just left it out instead of trying to line everything back up and put the bolt back in. Instead of taking vehicle back to the dealership and risking them taking a shortcut and force/bend the lower bracket or the filler tube over to put the bolt back in, or worst yet they screw the bolt in a little crooked and strip the thread, I'm going to try to get the bolt and put it back in myself and call it an educational opportunity.

My questions are that:

1) Does anyone have a part number for this bolt? It's the one for the lower bracket on the transmission filler tube for a 99 LC. (please see the red circled item in the photos)

2) Is it a good idea to replace the o-ring on the end of the filler tube that goes into the tube on the side of the transmission fluid pan? I'm sure that mine hasn't been replaced for a while, but I just don't know how often this o-ring needs to be replace. I know many members on the forum frequently service the transmission by dropping the pan so I was wondering if people routinely change out this o-ring. Does anyone have the part number for the o-ring?

3) Once I get the parts, I plan to undo the bolt that holds the upper filler tube bracket in place so hopefully I can adjust the position of the lower bracket to put the bolt in. Anyone knows how much flex I'll be able to get from the filler tube or is it really stiff? My concern is that once the lower bracket and bolt is on, now the upper bracket and bolt will be misaligned and not be put back in place.

4) My last question is nothing to do with the above, but has to do with the ATF level. What's the "normal" operating temperature of the ATF to properly check the ATF level? When I checked the level yesterday after driving on the freeway and the ATF temp read 150 degrees on the scan gauge II, the ATF level is only about 1/3 into the hot zone. The hottest I've seen my ATF temp is 179 and that's when I'm stuck in traffic and going up a long hill on a day with 95-100 degree outside temp. Normally on the freeway the ATF temp is between 140-160, so am I assuming correctly that around 150 is the "normal" operating temp where the fluid level is supposed to be at the top notch of the hot zone on the ATF dipstick?

Thanks for any input and help!

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O-ring # 90301-09173
bolt # 90119-10232

Align both bolts and start them by hand, make adjustments and then use a 10mm short socket & 1/4 ratchet to tighten them up. There should be plenty of wiggle room, if there was no damaged by the Dealership.

yes, to your last question, always check your owner's maintenance booklet on fluid checks.
 
So what's a "hot" temp that would trigger the warning light on the dash?

I apologize I do have an FSM but I'm on vacay and not near them.

I have a 2000 and am on the sands of Ocracoke and am watching it with a ScanGuageII.
 
So what's a "hot" temp that would trigger the warning light on the dash?

I apologize I do have an FSM but I'm on vacay and not near them.

I have a 2000 and am on the sands of Ocracoke and am watching it with a ScanGuageII.


Warning light on dash (if activated) should be regarded as a STOP NOW....light.

I would consider anything between 230-250° F. to be concerning if they reach this point and don't recede soon thereafter.

I can not find anything definitive in the FSM for a A343F tranny, but temps at or above what I stated should have your attention regardless the transmission.

I've heard it suggested (but not supported by Toyota literature) that the warning light would come on at approximately 300° F. and go off at about 250° F. but IIRC those numbers refer to the A440F and A442F transmissions and not the A343F. It is 'supposed' the parameters are the same (not MY assertion).

But I can tell you this....IF transmission fluid reaches 300° F. it is degrading rapidly.

So the benefit of having some method to monitor your trans temp (ScanGauge/Other) can not be overstated. Always best to see a problem 'coming' so you can avoid it, rather than 'react' to it once it is happening.
 
You rock man thanks!

I'll dig in further when I get home but the other day I was really jamming but had the trans in second which I think now should have been low, Ctr diff lock was on and tearing through some deep sand and the hottest it got was 206 on the SCII,

With my mileage I always keep an eye on the ScanGuage as two of the parameters I always see are trans temp and coolant temp.
 
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You rock man thanks!

I'll dig in further when I get home but the other day I was really jamming but had the trans in second which I think now should have been low, Ctr diff lock was on and tearing through some deep sand and the hottest it got was 206 on the SCIi,

With my mileage I always keep an eye on the ScanGuage as two of the parameters I always see are trans temp and coolant temp.

Smart man.
 
O-ring # 90301-09173
bolt # 90119-10232

Align both bolts and start them by hand, make adjustments and then use a 10mm short socket & 1/4 ratchet to tighten them up. There should be plenty of wiggle room, if there was no damaged by the Dealership.

yes, to your last question, always check your owner's maintenance booklet on fluid checks.

Thanks, Tx! I'll be ordering those parts soon.
 
Thanks, Tx! I'll be ordering those parts soon.

Well, unfortunately when I went to the dealership to order the bolt, their system didn't find the part number TxGuidedExpeditions provided (90119-10232). They thought it should be 90080-11199 (which replaces the old part number 91611-60816), but when I googled it the description from ToyotaPartsDeal.com says that it's for the transmission control cable bracket, not the lower transmission filler tube bracket that I needed. Anyone has any ideas or knows of another part number for this bolt?
 
Well, unfortunately when I went to the dealership to order the bolt, their system didn't find the part number TxGuidedExpeditions provided (90119-10232). They thought it should be 90080-11199 (which replaces the old part number 91611-60816), but when I googled it the description from ToyotaPartsDeal.com says that it's for the transmission control cable bracket, not the lower transmission filler tube bracket that I needed. Anyone has any ideas or knows of another part number for this bolt?


Oh, sorry. My part # might be outdated, however the upper and lower bolts are the same size. So replacement of hardware should not be too difficult finding at your local hardware store, like Fastenal. Zip tie the filler tube brackets in place temporary, while finding a replacement bolt. It's a metric like "10 x" or "8 x 1.25", I believe.

Let us know the results.
 
Oh, sorry. My part # might be outdated, however the upper and lower bolts are the same size. So replacement of hardware should not be too difficult finding at your local hardware store, like Fastenal. Zip tie the filler tube brackets in place temporary, while finding a replacement bolt. It's a metric like "10 x" or "8 x 1.25", I believe.

Let us know the results.

Thanks! I'll try that.
 
Hi All,

Just want to follow up on my question #4 in the first post. For a '99 LC, what's considered a normal operating temperature for the transmission to check the ATF level? And confirming that while at the "normal operating temperature" for the transmission, the optimal ATF level is at the top notch of the "hot" zone, correct?

Also, does anyone know how much ATF fluid does it take to raise the ATF level from the bottom notch of the hot zone to the top notch of the hot zone?

Thanks!
 

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