Hey all. I am getting ready to install a trail gear 3 inch sas on my 1988 toyota pickup. I am going to use lift blocks for the rear until I. Round up the money for the rear kit. Just wondering what lift blocks I should use for the time being. 4 inch? 5 inch? Thanks and good day
trail gear sas and rear lift blocks
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I've destroyed every lift block I've ever touched. Do a combo shackle and AAL if money is a factor.
Do they even make blocks that high?
do yourself a favor and wait to install the SAS till you have the rear lift.
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A buddy of mine is running 6 inch lift blocks from a 3/4 ton dodge on his 84 toyota. He's been running them for about 3 years and no issues. Since there aren't rocks here in idaho I don't think blocks would be an issue. Also he has stock toyota rears still and flex is that bad. No offense to anyone but I just want to know what size lift block to get to match a 3 inch trail gear sas kit. Thanks
Well, if you are keeping your stock springs then they are likely sagged some over the last 25 years. Couple that with the fact that generally the TG 3" springs will give more than 3" combined with the lift hanger will likely net you 5" or more up front and you may need between 4" and 6" of rear lift. An AAL and a 4" block might be a good combination. I would say the 4" block will be the minimum.
Honestly you may want to get the front completed throw in a 4" block in the rear and see where the front settles in at and then adjust the rear to match.
Honestly you may want to get the front completed throw in a 4" block in the rear and see where the front settles in at and then adjust the rear to match.
No offense, I'm far from a pro, but if you don't know what an aal is nor enough to type it into Google, should you really be doing an sas?
Is it an Above Axle Leaf?
AAL=Add A Leaf
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I know what add a leaf is. I had 1 before my pickup was ran into and broke the leaf springs. Just because I don't know every abbreviation doesn't mean I'm not capable of doing sas. So u can shut ur mouth at time torch
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saying that if someone doesn't know what aal means, and if they don't they shouldn't be doing an sas is like someone saying that if u don't know the difference between bias ply and radial tires that u shouldn't run tires at all. I'm here to get help and also to help with whatever I can. I'm not here to get bashed on. Haha a pirate 4x4 wannabee
Go with the Trail gear or All pro 4" springs, they are tad bit longer than the 3" and give you better flex. In the rear go with either used Chevy 63 or used chevy 53" (can't recall which truck or s-10 these came off of) with no blocks. You want to avoid blocks if possible, that is just my opinion of course. Or you could try and find a used set of lift springs for the back. People are always changing things around.
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Oops sorry. I thought I had previously stated that I had already chosen the tg 3 inch kit. Must not have though, and don't feel like going back to check. I had thought about the 63s. And also some f150 springs. The only reason I'm getting blocks is because they are cheap and easy, but it is definately only temporary. I've been waiting to sas this pickup for about 5 years. Thought I was going to have enough with my tax returns to purchase the rear kit also, but things happen.
He wasn't tryin to sound like an ass. But you just made yourself sound like a bigger ass. An also like a pirate 4x4 wannabe. And what he meant was not that you didn't know what AAL was but you didn't know AAL stranded for. So therefore neither of you guys understood that you knew what AAL was but that you did t know what AAL was an abbreviation for.
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Mudder, I apologize. I just felt like I was getting bashed on. And yes I did go to far. But if you could let me know your opinion on what size lift block I will need in the rear to get a close match to the tg 3 inch sas I would appreciate it. I don't mind if the rear sags a bit because the front will settle. I was thinking 4 inch?
A 4in would probably be the best to get for the sas.
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If you insist on using blocks at the minimum get a set of steel ones. The aluminum ones are what you find people breaking. Not saying steel ones cant, just less likely.
Also your gonna spend $40 or more on 4"-5" blocks. Probably more. Year go it coat me that for 2".For not much more you can scrounge a set of 150s or 63's. Then you just need a hanger kit. Also dont forget the money for u bolts so that might be another $20. Try and save to get the rear done. If not your gonna throw away the money spent on blocks and bolts if it truly is a temp fix. You should be able to get springs for $75-100 and another bill for mounting. So you basically can buy new springs for what tour temp fix cost. Mounting is where you would need to "extra" money. You would be much happier to have it flexing on both ends.
Whats your honest usage of the truck?
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Also your gonna spend $40 or more on 4"-5" blocks. Probably more. Year go it coat me that for 2".For not much more you can scrounge a set of 150s or 63's. Then you just need a hanger kit. Also dont forget the money for u bolts so that might be another $20. Try and save to get the rear done. If not your gonna throw away the money spent on blocks and bolts if it truly is a temp fix. You should be able to get springs for $75-100 and another bill for mounting. So you basically can buy new springs for what tour temp fix cost. Mounting is where you would need to "extra" money. You would be much happier to have it flexing on both ends.
Whats your honest usage of the truck?
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The main usage is old logging trails/4 wheeler trails. Muddy roads. Etc.. I run a lot of trails where flex would be nice to have, but I do not need extreme amounts because there is nowhere to rock crawl up here where I live. My buddy has an 84 toyota pickup and he is running 6 inch lift blocks out of a 3/4 ton dodge truck. Zero problems in a little over 3 years and he drives much harder then I will ever drive mine, as I am far more picky about the lines I take. I am going to 2 different pull n saves tomarrow and another junk yard looking for a set of blocks. They cost about 15 for a set. And u bolts will run me 18.99 plus tax per side. Springs at the junk yards where I go are 13 per side.
